nice aircraft but i'm waiting for the f100.  and also for the rj100.

Any news on the F100 development? Really hoping for this one too and the RJ. Never seems to be a timeline

On 2/27/2024 at 12:21 AM, Purr said:

Any news on the F100 development? Really hoping for this one too and the RJ. Never seems to be a timeline

Hi there

There was a dev update on the F70/100 back on January 19th and for the RJ Pro back towards the end of December.

https://www.justflight.com/in-development

Work is progressing nicely on both but the work isn't conducive to being able to bring more regular updates right now and we're just going to be tempting fate by offering dates/timelines etc. There's nothing more we'd like to do than give you more and more info and detail and release dates but it's simply fraught with uncertainty and danger so it makes it a bit pointless until we're a little further on. I'd say we're aiming for a middle of the year release for the RJ and then a few months after that for the F70 and 100.  That's very much just gut feel at the moment though there's not tons of science behind that feeling. 

What I can say is we'll be in a position to bring you some new dev updates for both projects in the coming weeks. That's quite advanced and we're just waiting on a couple of things for each to get them to the stage where we can show the next batch of features and development work.

Hope that helps to an extent. Thanks for your patience.

Thanks Scott yes I appreciate your update for sure. Looking forward to future updates when you have them. So keen to buy and fly them both!

As another busy week at Just Flight HQ draws to a close, we leave you with a selection of screenshots showing our upcoming F28 Version 2 update which is now in final stages of testing.

These screenshots show the five new liveries that are included with the update, covering a range of civilian and military operators, some of which are still actively flying F28s, private jet operators and popular liveries that have been requested by the community.

One of our most comprehensive upgrades yet, F28 v2 has been in development for close to a year, and brings many of the new features developed for 146 v2 and the RJ to the F28, including a custom UNS-1 FMS, boarding and refuelling logic with full GSX integration, interactive checklists, our latest EFB tablet, five new liveries and an upgraded autopilot.

F28 v2 will also introduce MSFS 2024 compatibility, as shown in these initial screenshots, and will be free-of-charge to existing owners of F28 Professional. We even have an interesting discount in mind to tempt potential new owners!

We'll bring you more information, screenshots and videos in the coming weeks, exploring the many hundreds of changes changes included in the upgrade, ahead of a planned release date of Thursday 13th March.

 

 

 

Martyn - Just Flight

Edited March 1, 20251 yr by Martyn JF

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Edited March 1, 20251 yr by Martyn JF

Looks very tempting @Martyn JF!

Does this include a 530 GPS for those of us who struggle with needles?

Also - is the 146 (which I own) getting this treatment as well (and could you hide a 530 GPS in that too)? 🙂

1 minute ago, Republic DC9 said:

Looks very tempting @Martyn JF!

Does this include a 530 GPS for those of us who struggle with needles?

Also - is the 146 (which I own) getting this treatment as well (and could you hide a 530 GPS in that too)? 🙂

It includes a fully integrated GNS 430 as an alternative to the UNS FMS, including support for the latest WT GNS 430 v2 in MSFS 2024. 

The 146 already received a very extensive v2 upgrade last year but will be receiving more upgrades, as well as MSFS 2024 compatibility, in the next month or so. There are no plans to retrofit a GNS GPS though, as we tend to stick to real world configurations (some real F28s have GPS units like the GNS). 

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Still one of my favourites and looking forward to seeing the V2 upgrade.  Still get one flying over here where I live in Cairns AU, first time I saw it I went is that a..???.., pulled out flightradar24 and yes it was a F28, still being flown by Air Niugini in Pappa New Guinea which is close to us.  Also have a BAE-146 QT parked when you drive into Cairns here right along the main road and that one still operates as well by Pionair Australia regularly flying over.  A lot of Just Flight enthusiasts here in the tropics, both sim and real life 😄

So would this fit before th 146 flying and

tech wise or before 146(closer to the DC6).

I love the 146 but prefer the RJ.

 

Wow! Amazing detail and modeling in this plane. 

6 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

So would this fit before th 146 flying and

tech wise or before 146(closer to the DC6).

I love the 146 but prefer the RJ.

 

It predates the 146, but with the new FMS and autopilot upgrades, I'd say that it offers a similar experience and workload to the 146. 

Martyn - Just Flight 

22 hours ago, Martyn JF said:

It includes a fully integrated GNS 430 as an alternative to the UNS FMS, including support for the latest WT GNS 430 v2 in MSFS 2024. 

The 146 already received a very extensive v2 upgrade last year but will be receiving more upgrades, as well as MSFS 2024 compatibility, in the next month or so. There are no plans to retrofit a GNS GPS though, as we tend to stick to real world configurations (some real F28s have GPS units like the GNS). 

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Owner of the plane and it's one of my favourites my only issues being the vor /ils behaviour being unrealistic with the wt gns code. Will the UNS version be independent of the gns version? As I doubt this is happening is there separate unique ap logic when the ac is slaved to the uns and not the gns or do they both 'fly' the same way in the sim? I do get this may be a non event as the gns in v1 influences the ap to fly similar to LNAV anyway so nobody will notice! 

I'm more interested in the way the cockpit systems integrate with the ap model than to panels and buttons themselves. I've been watching this uns development for a long time with great interest as it should finally give me a realistic autopilot! I'd prefer to have both vor and uns versions available and working realistically but I'm fine with just one of them. 

To anyone confused about the vor /nav radio ap behaviour it is documented that inclusion of the wt gns interferes with and takes over traditional radio nav ap behaviour. 

A beautiful F27-MK500 was released Freeware last year that came only with vor nav and the developer pointed out in the manual that there was no gns option to retain the accuracy of the ap model. Then... Of course 'everyone' wanted the wt gns in there despite historical and operational inaccuracy so he added it anyway and deleted the manual warning. I tested both versions for some 9 hours to confirm and analyse the differences. Version with gns code vastly inferior and unreliable. 

I really hope I don't get slammed for nit picking here. If the JF F28 wasn't such an absolute work of art that I would fly all the time if not for this issue I wouldn't be bringing up this point at all. 

I'd pay for this ac a second time just to get the original development version without wt gns included. I own quite a few JF ac and it's all been money well spent. 

Looking forward to this v2 very much regardless of ap behaviour! 

You'll be pleased to hear that the UNS FMS and autopilot are entirely independent of the WT GNS. 

Martyn - Just Flight 

And here's the current v2 upgrade changelog:

- New Custom-Coded UNS-1 Flight Management System: 
    - Unique interface based on the real world UNS-1 FMS 
    - Manoeuvres including Holding Patterns (HLD), Direct To (DTO) and Command Heading function (CMD HDG) 
    - Top of descent calculations based on target vertical speed included via the PATH VNAV page 
    - Navigation monitoring including wind information, XTK error and groundspeed. 
    - Real time performance information including current range, endurance, ETP/PNR 
    - Support for SIDs, STARs and Approach procedures 
    - Ability to save and import custom flight plans 
    - Custom database updatable via a Navigraph subscription – supplied with AIRAC 2401 navdata by default 
    - Swappable units (KGs/LBs) 
    - Comprehensive UNS-1 FMS Operations Manual including a tutorial flight 
    - Various bug fixes and improvements – developed from our latest UNS-1 release in the 146 Professional (MSFS) 
    - Added TUNE page functionality 
- New Boarding and Refuelling Simulation 
    - Controlled via the EFB, allows for a realistic simulation of the passenger and cargo boarding and deboarding process 
    - Multiple boarding speeds can be selected, from instant to realistic 
    - Progress and time remaining is shown, along with tips to open the relevant passenger and cargo doors 
    - Boarding/deboarding states are automatically synced to the stage of flight, e.g. starting at a parking spot will result in an empty aircraft, ready for boarding to commence 
    - Integration with GSX – when GSX HANDLING is enabled via the EFB, the selected payload will be synchronised with GSX so the correct number of passengers will be loaded. Progress can be monitored as usual via the EFB 
    - Progressive refuelling functionality, compatible with GSX 
    - If enabled via the EFB, the cabin crew will automatically open and close the passenger and service doors as required 
    - New passenger boarding/deboarding and cabin crew sounds added 
    - Music reproducer will play music during boarding and deboarding 
- New Just Flight V3 EFB:  
    - Redesigned EFB interface  
    - Added support for Navigraph en route charts.  
    - Added ability to draw on Navigraph charts 
    - Improved data entry logic on Aircraft page 
    - Reorganised EFB Configuration menu options  
    - Added confirmation popup when changing aircraft states 
    - Improved transition logic between JS/HTML and WASM EFB pages 
    - SimBrief import payload option now syncs the correct passenger number, cargo quantity and ZFW (updated SimBrief profiles for each F28 variant will be provided) 
    - Red warning added to EFB aircraft page when maximum ZFW has been exceeded 
    - Numerous other fixes and improvements to the EFB  
- New interactive paper checklists:  
    - Customisable paper checklist mounted on retractable cockpit side wall clipboards   
    - Up to 20 checklists can be shown, and are easy customisable .PNG images stored within the F28 package  
    - Hidden clickspots are used to cycle between the checklist pages and rotate them to both portrait and landscape orientations 
    - Dynamic index page will list the names and page numbers for all the checklists that have been added  
    - ATC information (callsign, flight number and registration) is displayed at the top of the checklists 
- New additional cockpit features: 
    - Altitude Preselect Controller with autopilot altitude hold and vertical speed controls, automatic altitude arming and altitude alerting functionality (toggleable via an option on the EFB) 
    - Updated functionality of original Altitude Alerting System so that it now accurately only functions as an Altitude Alerting System (toggleable via an option on the EFB) 
    - ALTITUDE PRESELECT light on the pedestal that works in conjunction with the altitude alert system 
    - Classic style passenger oxygen regulator added to right side panel and an option to toggle between classic/modern types added to the EFB 
    - GNS530 GPS swapped to a GNS430 GPS and moved to first officer’s panel - this more accurately reflects the configuration of real world F28s that are still in operation and allows for simultaneous use of GPS and weather radar. 
    - Enabled Working Title GNS430 V2 framework in MSFS 2024 
    - NAV/GPS Selector/Indicator and GPS annunciators that integrate with the UNS-1 FMS 
    - Animated ashtrays 
    - Animated sun visors (also toggleable via an option on the EFB) 
    - Optional textures replacements and configuration file option to change cockpit artwork and displays between KGs/LBs  
- 5 new liveries: 
    - F28 Mk.1000 Columbian Air Force (FAC0002) 
    - F28 Mk.1000 Desert Eagle (N500WN) 
    - F28 Mk.4000 Air21 (N496US) 
    - F28 Mk.4000 Argentine Air Force (T-51) 
    - F28 Mk.4000 Biman Bangladesh (S2-ACW) 
- Other changes: 
    - Added MSFS 2024 compatibility 
    - Added fade in/fade out effects to external incandescent lighting 
    - Improved exterior lighting bloom  
    - Improved cockpit lighting default settings when starting a flight – cockpit lighting will be set based on the time of day in the simulator 
    - Improved reading light animations 
    - Improved cockpit lighting controls – allowing for finer control of cockpit lighting dimmer switches 
    - Reduced cockpit window reflectivity at night 
    - Improved TCAS artwork and functionality 
    - Improvements to the Auto Cabin Crew logic – if enabled on the EFB, includes the automatic release of the cabin crew during climb if not actioned by the user, and random cabin calls during flight, etc. 
    - Forward galley light now varies based on cockpit door position – reducing the amount light bleeding through the cockpit door 
    - Slightly increased lift dumper drag 
    - Improved pitch stability in level flight 
    - Improved altimeter drum rolling animations 
    - Improved Static Pressure guarded switch animations 
    - Added ‘Heading Sync’ clickspot to NAV TRANSFER FAILURE light on glareshield  
    - Increased thickness of glideslope reference line on ADI for better visibility  
    - Improved ADI bank angle artwork 
    - Fixed minor z-fighting around cockpit windows 
    - Fixed typo on stabilizer trim wheel 
    - Fixed minor clipping issue with fast/slow indicator on Captain’s ADI 
    - Fixed small model gap at edge of eyebrow window 
    - Small optimisation in file size and VRAM usage 
    - Improved engine fire bell test logic – fire bell test buttons now hold in the down position for 3 seconds and fire bell can be cancelled using the bell silencer 
    - Nav selectors now default to 000 
    - Improved accuracy of ASI speed  
    - Added manual speed flipchart option – with the FLIPCHART WT SYNC option disabled on the EFB, use left and right arrows on the speed flipchart to change the weights displayed 
    - Flight deck door is now forced to the closed position and locked if the cabin is disabled via the EFB  
    - Doors are now closed and GPU is now removed automatically when using the relevant interactive checklists 
    - Fixed TOGGLE GPWS control assignment logic 
    - Fixed an issue when changing NAV1/APPR/NAV2 source with the GPS selected 
    - Fixed an issue where glideslope could not be captured if IAS and GLIDE modes were both engaged  
    - Improved Standby Horizon caging logic – now requires caging after starting cold and dark, added caging wobble 
    - Fixed GPU beacon not flashing unless nav lights were switched on 
    - Added correct equipment configuration to new liveries  
    - Added Logo Lights to automatic equipment configurations – logo lights will now be fitted to liveries that have them fitted in the real world 
    - Passenger oxygen regulators will be fitted based on the aircraft construction number 
    - Fixed incorrect OAT indication in Mk2000 variant 
    - Added hidden clickspots on HSI screws and FMS screws to move to the UNS-1 FMS camera preset 
    - Increased brightness of GPS and weather radar displays 
    - Re-enabled Weather Radar on Xbox version 
    - Fixed audio of 3-position switches being barely audible when operating them the first time after loading 
    - Cockpit door now attenuation cabin borne noise 
    - Added sound effects for all new cockpit items  
    - Added two additional tracks to music reproducer music file (now 3 in total) 
    - Fixed instance of GPWS “Glideslope” callout triggering in a dive 
    - Improved cabin to cockpit calls 
    - Many other minor sound changes and performance optimisation  
    - Fixed doors and equipment not being closed/removed with automatic checklist 
    - Fixed various instances of the F28 appearing as Ai traffic 
    - Main menu thumbnails updated in MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 
    - Added new Cockpit Instrument camera views for UNS-1 FMS, GNS430 GPS and EFB 
    - Improved existing Pilot camera views 
    - Improved existing Cockpit Instrument camera views 
    - Improved existing Showcase camera views 
    - Various minor livery fixes  
    - Various other minor bug fixes 
    - Updated Operations Manual 
    - Updated EFB Manual 
    - Added UNS-1 Operations Manual 

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