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BeyondATC: new video with premium voices!

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Also, many (if not all and more) of the questions I see here are fully addressed in their online interview, well worth the listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPCGzjy7qC0&t=6s

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1 hour ago, virtualstuff said:

is it only target for the USA missing all the European stuff...

In the first 20 seconds of the video he states that a European video is coming soon.

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That’s pretty impressive progress. They are going to have to teach AI some of the more ATC specific interpretations of aviation abbreviations like saying “runway” instead of “R - W” and “Sid” rather than “Side”. Unfortunately there’s no hope for the pronunciation of some of the procedure or fix names 😆. Heck, most pilots are guessing the first time they try. 

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4 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

They are going to have to teach AI some of the more ATC specific interpretations of aviation abbreviations like saying “runway” instead of “R - W” and “Sid” rather than “Side”. Unfortunately there’s no hope for the pronunciation of some of the procedure or fix names 😆. Heck, most pilots are guessing the first time they try. 

He addressed that very point in the video

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This is one of those uses of AI that makes you go "wow" - the dev is certainly taking ATC to the next level. Amazing project. 

The one thing I worry about is that MS might be doing the same thing in MS 2024. MSFS is a showcase for MS technologies: Azure, Bing Maps, big data, cloud architecture, etc... Interactive large language models like Bing Chat (aka Chat GPT) are the "next big thing" at MS. This is such a perfect example of how to effectively incorporate and utilize that technology, and such an obvious way for MSFS to continue to serve as a poster child for the MS ecosystem that it would be shocking if Asobo WEREN'T already working on exactly this same approach to ATC. 

Innovation is always great and you can't let "whatifs" hold you back, but I almost hope Asobo doesn't improve ATC in MSFS 2024 so this dev has a chance to realize the fruits of their labor. 

5 hours ago, vbazillio said:

Another quite unreal is other pilots jumping on the freq in a middle of the flow.

lol I laughed out loud for real when that happened. Its very realistic compared to vatsim 😅 with pilots just cutting people off asking for taxi before I can even read back what the controller told me 

 
 

Mmh not sure about that. Voices is only one part of the equation, what's more important is variance in WHAT is said. I mean right in beginning of the video you hear two AI aircraft calling for clearance, both with exactly the same (uncommon) phrase "Looking for IFR clearance...", also every other call seems to have the exact same words. If every call has the exact same structure, this is going to get old very fast, no matter how natural the voices are.
 

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3 hours ago, virtualstuff said:

is it only target for the USA missing all the European stuff...

Do you actually listen when someone explains something? He clearly said in the introduction that the next video will showcase ICAO phraseology.

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59 minutes ago, enright said:

....but I almost hope Asobo doesn't improve ATC in MSFS 2024 so this dev has a chance to realize the fruits of their labor. 

Or MS/Asobo hires this dev to manage full integration of his handiwork into MSFS seamlessly.  Of course MS would have to pony up what this guy might potentially earn selling copies of Beyond ATC on top of a very handsome salary contract.

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22 minutes ago, Noel said:

Or MS/Asobo hires this dev to manage full integration of his handiwork into MSFS seamlessly.  Of course MS would have to pony up what this guy might potentially earn selling copies of Beyond ATC on top of a very handsome salary contract.

A Microsoft contract would be far more lucrative than selling a 3rd party ATC application.

Have they mentioned anything about long haul flights when you leave your plane in cruise and come back some 8 hours later? Is there some option about where the atc would pick right back up where you left off?

This is a mess. All the AI traffic is sent to 26L/R for takeoff while the user aircraft is sent to 08L. To cap it all an AI aircraft is cleared for takeoff on 26R right at the moment the user just started his takeoff roll on 08L.

They have a long way to go.

 

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Does this program also control the live traffic? i heard the other A/C talking....

 

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50 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

This is a mess. All the AI traffic is sent to 26L/R for takeoff while the user aircraft is sent to 08L. To cap it all an AI aircraft is cleared for takeoff on 26R right at the moment the user just started his takeoff roll on 08L.

They have a long way to go.

 

That's an Asobo issue at the moment. Listen to or read the interview with the developer, it has been addressed several times in several different venues.

54 minutes ago, mdma11 said:

Have they mentioned anything about long haul flights when you leave your plane in cruise and come back some 8 hours later? Is there some option about where the atc would pick right back up where you left off?

You can have your copilot answer radio calls and change frequencies.

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