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Can someone explain the benefit or value of using sim brief vs the world map flight planner?

I’ve been using the world map for all my IFR flights… I usually pick a parking spot on both ends and let ATC assign me a runway for departure and a runway and approach on arrival, and the world map provides all the way points in between. What am I missing?

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The biggest thing would be that the default flight planner isn't going to use realistic routes whereas SimBrief does. Simbrief takes real route data into account not to mention Oceanic tracks and PACOTS etc which the default probably doesn't know anything about. I've also seen people post where the default planner recommends altitudes that don't exist, ie FL 420,440 etc. The ATC being as bad as it is also assigns those non existent altitudes as it really has no idea what it's doing or what separation even is.

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Just now, Virtual-Chris said:

Can someone explain the benefit or value of using sim brief vs the world map flight planner?

I’ve been using the world map for all my IFR flights… I usually pick a parking spot on both ends and let ATC assign me a runway for departure and a runway and approach on arrival, and the world map provides all the way points in between. What am I missing?

Thanks. 

The WM is a great UI idea poorly implemented, cumbersome to use and often recommending weird parameters (altitude, route).  

I do not use SB but Little Nav Map . The added value is a detailed vertical and lateral profile of the procedures (VOR/DME, ILS and RNAV)  which are injected in the Garmin and better/more accessible informations on the  environment (relief profile, wind etc.) .

I do hope that they will rehab the WP in 2024 with a couple of simmers breathing on their neck.

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To me, Simbrief is the gold standard.

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The integration SB/Navigraph has with all the major aircraft we typically fly in the sim makes it, to me, an absolute requirement for flying any flight that requires a detailed flight plan.  If I only every used the sim to hop in a Cessna 150 and fly around the local area then land, then not so much...but IMO it is as much a necessity in MSFS as the wings on the plane you're flying. 🙂 

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In addition, Simbrief creates a proper dispatch briefing with a ton of information about weather, speed, timing, fuel, weights, step climb, ....

 

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I can tell that you won't get any closer to real world briefing packages as you get with the ones prepared with simbrief.

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5 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

better/more accessible informations on the  environment (relief profile, wind etc.) .

Detailed maps containing this kind of info are available from Simbrief, including detailed weather and even NOTAMs.

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Agree with all the comments here and will add that SB allows you to easily edit the flight plan.

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I use both depending on how much time I have to sim.

Or, if I am flying GA instead of an airliner.

You can adjust the cruising altitude in the WM planner. Just click the box until the number is highlighted and type in what you desire and tab out of the box!

You can also change waypoints on the WM planner and I do that if it’s a short route I fly often and know by heart (i.e. KFLL OCTAL JAYMC KTPA).

So, both have their uses.

It’s all about using the tools available, it need not be all or nothing.

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8 minutes ago, Los said:

I use both depending on how much time I have to sim.

Or, if I am flying GA instead of an airliner.

You can adjust the cruising altitude in the WM planner. Just click the box until the number is highlighted and type in what you desire and tab out of the box!

You can also change waypoints on the WM planner and I do that if it’s a short route I fly often and know by heart (i.e. KFLL OCTAL JAYMC KTPA).

So, both have their uses.

It’s all about using the tools available, it need not be all or nothing.

Everything you mention  you can easily do in Simbrief. 

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Just now, jrw4 said:

Detailed maps containing this kind of info are available from Simbrief, including detailed weather and even NOTAMs.

I meant better than the WM, I do not use SB just because I got used to LNM and that I see SB as more airliners oriented. I may be wrong here though.

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5 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I meant better than the WM, I do not use SB just because I got used to LNM and that I see SB as more airliners oriented. I may be wrong here though.

I have used Simbrief with the Mooney, The C 182, Comanche, Kodiak, C 310, Seminole, Arrow, and some more I can't even remember at the moment. 

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