August 15, 20232 yr I will give my answer as NO but others may think otherwise. For starters I use LOD 150 and fly is spare areas like Alaska Which is part of the reason I get good frames at altitude in the HJet. I'm on the fence with Frame Gen but think that it could be useful but @ 90 FPS I'm happy. CPU is a 5900x which I'm also happy with. Panning is smooth as glass with no vsync. Also, DX12 is the best. Cheers sp Edited August 15, 20232 yr by Sky_Pilot071
August 15, 20232 yr I have a 4090, and I don't even use Frame Generation because performance is so good with MSFS. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 15, 20232 yr Heck yes, NO. I am capped at 30 Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
August 15, 20232 yr If you have the money.... But, personally, I doubt I can't get these performances even in FSX. Not sure about FS9. 90 FPS is more than I can dream about (but I fly airliners and I like to go to international airports)... Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
August 15, 20232 yr Everyone should keep in mind that, if you're going to use more than 60fps, you'll need a video monitor/display/TV capable of generating more than 60fps. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
August 16, 20232 yr There is no reson to upgrade if you get 90fps,180fps won't make it any better, I get 60-70 fps Ultra with DX11, I don't use FG even if I can, it is to many quirks and bad vram usage with DX12 for my liking. Edited August 16, 20232 yr by Ixoye System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
August 16, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said: I use LOD 150 and @ 90 FPS I'm happy. CPU is a 5900x which I'm also happy with. Should you upgrade?? I cant help but think this is troll posting. I am about to pull the trigger on a completely new system for $2,100 US and am hoping to hit 60 FPS. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
August 16, 20232 yr Back in the day 20 fps was the default refresh rate for FSX. If you got above that you were good to go. Then it became 30 fps with some arguing that 24 fps was the holy grail as it is what hollywood has been using for nearly 100 years. Now 60 fps seems to have replaced 30 fps and many are also extolling the virture of 100 plus fps that can be achieved with any system fitted with a 4000 series GPU and FG. Myself I am still delighted if fps never dips below 30 anything higher is a bonus. I have three screens one refreshes at 30 hertz another at 60 hertz and the third at 144 hertz and I can't see any difference. Bruce Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
August 16, 20232 yr Since I bought the RTX 4090 I immediately understood that 4k is a must to have and that from now on I would only buy the best GPU that exists.
August 16, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said: I will give my answer as NO but others may think otherwise. For starters I use LOD 150 and fly is spare areas like Alaska Which is part of the reason I get good frames at altitude in the HJet. I'm on the fence with Frame Gen but think that it could be useful but @ 90 FPS I'm happy. CPU is a 5900x which I'm also happy with. Panning is smooth as glass with no vsync. Also, DX12 is the best. Cheers sp Is this at 4K ??
August 16, 20232 yr I run in 4K with a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU and 3060Ti GPU. In most complex areas with complex aircraft, PMDG eg, I get anywhere between 30 and 60FPS with a mixture of High and Ultra and an LOD of 150. I love it and won't be upgrading any time soon. Aside from that, I believe MSFS2024 will be further optimised so I reckon the 3060Ti has a bit of life left in her yet. And just FYI, I've never jumped on the must have the highest FPS bandwagon. Jase Jaseman. Lovin it up here........ Catch us over at MassieSim32 -> https://discord.gg/B4buuHGhcr
August 16, 20232 yr Whether you should upgrade or not depends on whether you want to run the simulator at higher detail levels. If you are not interested in cranking up the visual fidelity, then 90fps sounds perfectly fine to me! Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
August 16, 20232 yr Personal choice in the end, and budget constraints. I've just updated my rig coming from i7 4790k + 1070, this is a system which is about 8/9 years old (I think) and in FSX/P3D/XPlane and MSFS flying the big irons into heavy international aiports with moderate AI or Vatsim has been a poor experience giving me on most occasions 10-20FPS on final approach with stutters especially on touchdown. I've suffered this for years and thought enough is enough! I managed to finance a new build about 4 weeks ago, 7800X3D + 4090 and oh my word............! Now purely from an overly indulgent point of view I have sliders far right, Frame Gen on and grin like a cheshire cat flying into inibuilds EGLL, with moderate AI, in the Fenix A320 busting out 50-60FPS and its butter smooth!! Outside of major hubs and at cruise its around 100+FPS, I still can't comprehend it. This is hooked to my new Gigabyte M28U 4K display running at 144hz and its a thing of beauty, I keep asking the missus to "have a look at this" but she can't see what I can see hahaha!! Edited August 16, 20232 yr by sidfadc Thomas Derbyshire
August 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, sidfadc said: Personal choice in the end, and budget constraints. I've just updated my rig coming from i7 4790k + 1070, this is a system which is about 8/9 years old (I think) and in FSX/P3D/XPlane and MSFS flying the big irons into heavy international aiports with moderate AI or Vatsim has been a poor experience giving me on most occasions 10-20FPS on final approach with stutters especially on touchdown. I've suffered this for years and thought enough is enough! I managed to finance a new build about 4 weeks ago, 7800X3D + 4090 and oh my word............! Now purely from an overly indulgent point of view I have sliders far right, Frame Gen on and grin like a cheshire cat flying into inibuilds EGLL, with moderate AI, in the Fenix A320 busting out 50-60FPS and its butter smooth!! Outside of major hubs and at cruise its around 100+FPS, I still can't comprehend it. This is hooked to my new Gigabyte M28U 4K display running at 144hz and its a thing of beauty, I keep asking the missus to "have a look at this" but she can't see what I can see hahaha!! Considering your about 600/800 wattage for every flight, maybe it's better to buy real flight lessons in real planes. Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
August 16, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Claudius_ said: Considering your about 600/800 wattage for every flight, maybe it's better to buy real flight lessons in real planes. Haha probably not. I mean I recommend real flying but the cost at least, in the US, to rent is probably near 200 an hour. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
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