I'm using LNM with X-Plane 11.55 and X-Plane 12.05r1.  Recently, and only in XP12.05r1, my airport diagram and parking spaces have disappared.  The Naviads are still there, ILS & VFR feathers and the VOR, but the image of the ramps, the runways and parking spaces are gone.  When I search for the airport in LNM, it finds all the airport info, but the airport dot is greyed out in search.  Does anyone have an idea of what I can do to fix this?

Oh, I don't have any addon airports installed, so it's the default airport data for XP12.05r1.  The only addon scenery I have is SimHeaven World 3 scenery.  I've tried to Load the Scenery Library with and without that addon scenery, but no change.

When I was first using LNM 8.11 and then 8.12, it was all there.  It's only recently after I'd updated to 8.12 that I noticed Portland was missing, so I don't know exactly when it happened.  From backtracking through 8.12 and then back to 8.11, KPDX is missing in both, but when I backed all the way back to 8.1 Beta, KPDX runways, airport diagram and all show up again. I don't know where to start looking to fix this.  

In XP11.55, the library and LNM display everything just fine.

Help?

Edited September 11, 20232 yr by Randy_Cain

This airport is grey (should be blue) on your airports list at second screenshot , so I suppose it's an empty airport type.
Click at "airports type" button on toolbar (it's on the left of VOR button), switch on "show empty airports" and "show addon airports" (as this airport's landmarks are also kept in "Custom Scenery" folder). In general I usually switch on all types of airports to see whether there are displayed.

Maybe it helps you 🙂

Regards,
Piotr

1 hour ago, ppgas said:

This airport is grey (should be blue) on your airports list at second screenshot , so I suppose it's an empty airport type.
Click at "airports type" button on toolbar (it's on the left of VOR button), switch on "show empty airports" and "show addon airports" (as this airport's landmarks are also kept in "Custom Scenery" folder). In general I usually switch on all types of airports to see whether there are displayed.

Maybe it helps you 🙂

Regards,
Piotr

Thank you so very much, Piotr.  I clicked the "Reset Airport Display Options" button in that list and everything, being the one missing KPDX Portland Int., popped back in and displays as it should.  

I think I forgot to mention, there was never anything wrong with the airport in XP12, it's map, display or default ATC operations.  It was just the one airport not displaying in LNM. 

Thanks again.  I really was't looking forward to completely reinstalling everything.

😄

Reinstalling usually does not help with LNM. There are options in the LNM tools menu to reset settings and all which might help.

The last few X-Plane betas had issues with missing airports. Don't remember which ones but this also can be a reason.

Alex

Hi.  Thanks for your help.

What I'm seeing on my end, with X-Plane 12.05r1, I have two airports, KSFO and KDPX that now appear in the LNM "Empty" catagory, so now that I turned the Empty catagory back on, I can see them, but my question is what would it take to put those airports in the Empty catagory in the first place?  Is it something about those airports that needs to be changed to fix that?

I've removed all the SimHeaven World 3 files and restored the Scenery.ini file to it's original state and everything seems to be in order now, but I never used to have major airports appear as "empty" before.

Any ideas?

1 hour ago, Randy_Cain said:

I've removed all the SimHeaven World 3 files and restored the Scenery.ini file to it's original state and everything seems to be in order now, but I never used to have major airports appear as "empty" before.

Have you reloaded scenery library (for XP12) under LNM after doing above procedures?

Regards,
Piotr

 

Yes, multiple times, but no change.  I tried several times reloading, having turned the SimHeaven files off, on, then back off again, but no change.  KPDX, KSFO and now, I just realized, KLAX are "empty" airports.
I found the section in the manual that covers this, but I don't really understand it.  KLAX, KSFO and KPDX all have a 4 Star rating, so should that prevent them from being "empty"? I also tried making them "addon airports", but while it put a yellow user waypoint there, that didn't didn't change them.  They remain "empty".
I even reinstalled X-Plane 12, but that didn't change this. I guess they may have always been like this, but I just never noticed, til I must have accidentally turned off the "empty" catagory in the airports.

The thing is, when I was initially troubleshooting this, I went back to version 8.1Beta of LittleNavMap and these airports still don't appear empty when using that old beta version.  Something has changed with 8.11 and 8.12 and I have no clue what happened.

Here's the pages of the manual I was testing the options on, but with no success.  

These airports really shouldn't be listed as "empty".  If nothing else, I think they may have been made by Aerosoft to be included in X-Plane 12 by default.

6. User Interface — Little Navmap User Manual

Okay, I think I'm onto something.  KSEA is one of the empty ones, too.  If I remember right, KSEA, KSFO, KLAX and KPDX must be demo airports by Aerosoft, because all four appear as grayed out and "empty".  Is there a way to fix this?

Per default X-Plane airports are declared empty by LNM if they do not have the 3D flag set.
The 3D flag indicates if an airport has any 3D objects but this is a bit arbitrary. I can be a full featured terminal building and whatnot or just a windsock. The airport developer has to add this to the airport.

You can disable the 3D thing here:

Or you can disable the whole empty airport business by unchecking the box above.

Alex

Thank you, Alex.  I read that and thought it meant exactly the opposite of what that unchecking that would do.

Well done!