4 minutes ago, Alvega said:

I've seen someone talking on their Discord about the same problem with spoilers but with another aircraft and they told him to contact the aircraft dev to fix it because APL just reads what FSUIPC sends it.

Yes, same thing with the DC6. Trying to get PMDG to change that, forget about it. I just forget about the 5 lost points, no big deal. 

Edited November 18, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Yes, same thing with the DC6. Trying to get PMDG to change that, forget about it. I just forget about the 5 lost points, no big deal. 

Just noticed it's in their FAQ on DIscord:

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Q: Why am I receiving docked points for certain things my aircraft don't have? For example, an aircraft that doesn't have spoilers and getting points docked for spoilers.

A: You will need to contact the developer of that aircraft and ask what values they are sending. Remember that APL only receives its data from FSUIPC/XPUIPC
 

 

1 hour ago, Alvega said:

I've seen someone talking on their Discord about the same problem with spoilers but with another aircraft and they told him to contact the aircraft dev to fix it because APL just reads what FSUIPC sends it.

I filed similar bug with MD-80th aircraft . But the thing is a lot aircraft simply don’t have spoilers lol If they can’t fix it they should at least give option to turn it off 

31 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I filed similar bug with MD-80th aircraft . But the thing is a lot aircraft simply don’t have spoilers lol If they can’t fix it they should at least give option to turn it off 

As I said, it's the aircraft dev that needs to fix it, not APL. Many aircraft don't have spoilers and don't have that problem because they send the correct values, like the Cessna 414. Did you file the MD80 bug with the MD-80 dev? If not, that's what you need to do. It's probably an easy fix for them.

26 minutes ago, Alvega said:

As I said, it's the aircraft dev that needs to fix it, not APL. Many aircraft don't have spoilers and don't have that problem because they send the correct values, like the Cessna 414. Did you file the MD80 bug with the MD-80 dev? If not, that's what you need to do. It's probably an easy fix for them.

I filed 3 month ago and in still not resolved. Leonardo MD-80th get error for spoilers up after landing while in reality they are done. Like I said - it's no my job to communicate with 3rd party aircraft developers. If APL can't accommodate that then they should provide option to turn it on or off spoilers tracking  for particular aircraft 

On 11/17/2023 at 11:05 AM, Alvega said:

I think Newsky is the same.

the  new  version  of  newsky  the  gui  you  can  adjust the number  of  pax  and  weights and  than  you enter  these  into  the  aircraft

16 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I’ve started using Newsky, and for free it is really good! 

+1. signed up and did 2 first flights, like it. Seems to be exactly what I need. Not overdone and nicely monitoring the flights.

1 hour ago, DAD said:

+1. signed up and did 2 first flights, like it. Seems to be exactly what I need. Not overdone and nicely monitoring the flights.

I looked at Newsky and their Wiki. Way to complex for my  tastes, seems to be embroiled in running an airline, dispatching, scheduling etc. I like a Pilots Life because it's total focus is on piloting an aircraft from one airport to another and doing a good job of it. 

17 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I looked at Newsky and their Wiki. Way to complex for my  tastes, seems to be embroiled in running an airline, dispatching, scheduling etc. I like a Pilots Life because it's total focus is on piloting an aircraft from one airport to another and doing a good job of it. 

It's rather simple, actually. Sign up and you will be automatically added to airline "Newsky Academy", for which you have to fly at least one hour or so. Then book a flight, which basically amounts to picking departure and destination, and a suitable airplane. APL2 is better there since you can just fly the next flight on your schedule, whereas in Newsky you have to know where you want to go. Newky is better if you want more flexibility in what flight you will do next time.

After you picked a flight, the tricky part starts: get fuel and payload right. Weight and balance is very much part of a pilot's job. For me, having this feature is on of the main reasons why I am using Newsky now. Do reduce payload and lose revenue to be on the safe side? Or do I stretch the reserve fuel rules since Simbrief values are quite high anyway? I like that 🙂

Once this is done, start your flight and pay attention to your takeoff and landing (stay on centerline and hit the landing zone).

You don't have to do/fly schedules or manage an airline at all. Just fly free flights for the academy, or join another existing airline.

Peter

2 minutes ago, qqwertz said:

It's rather simple, actually. Sign up and you will be automatically added to airline "Newsky Academy", for which you have to fly at least one hour or so. Then book a flight, which basically amounts to picking departure and destination, and a suitable airplane. APL2 is better there since you can just fly the next flight on your schedule, whereas in Newsky you have to know where you want to go. Newky is better if you want more flexibility in what flight you will do next time.

After you picked a flight, the tricky part starts: get fuel and payload right. Weight and balance is very much part of a pilot's job. For me, having this feature is on of the main reasons why I am using Newsky now. Do reduce payload and lose revenue to be on the safe side? Or do I stretch the reserve fuel rules since Simbrief values are quite high anyway? I like that 🙂

Once this is done, start your flight and pay attention to your takeoff and landing (stay on centerline and hit the landing zone).

You don't have to do/fly schedules or manage an airline at all. Just fly free flights for the academy, or join another existing airline.

Peter

In an Airliner, dispatchers  figure out weight and balance.

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

In an Airliner, dispatchers  figure out weight and balance.

And the pilot inputs them into the plane. That’s what he’s saying… not everything has to be an argument. 

5 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

And the pilot inputs them into the plane. That’s what he’s saying… not everything has to be an argument. 

Lol, no, that's not what he's saying at all.

1 minute ago, Alvega said:

Lol, no, that's not what he's saying at all.

Who inputs them in to the plane then? 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

In an Airliner, dispatchers  figure out weight and balance.

Correct. But it's up to you if you are a part 135 operator. To each what they prefer.

 

I used my Simbrief OFP like usual and just flew the aircraft, importing any fuel via the EFB as usual. Worked fine with Newsky, no need to join an airline, as Peter mentioned just use the default newsky airline and off you go. Liked it.