FROM THE INIBUILDS DISCORD

We're excited to announce that Palm Springs is now live on the store!

 

Palm Springs International airport, covers 940 acres with two runways and is 2 miles east of downtown Palm Springs, California, USA. The airport is key in California serving close to 3 million passengers in 2022! The airport is served by all major US carriers, boasting services to the East and West Coast, with an international presence from Canadian carriers such as Westjet and Air Canada.

 

For this weekend only, you can buy iniBuilds Palm Springs (KPSP) for only £9.99 GBP (excl VAT) when purchased in the iniManager! Please ensure you are on the latest version (v2.2.7) of the iniManager to avail this deal!

Deal expires 23/10/23 @23:59 BST (GMT+1).

 

Regular price on the iniBuilds Store website is £14.99 GBP (excl VAT)

 

Watch the trailer:

 

Buy now: https://inib.uk/kpsp-msfs

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Edited October 20, 20232 yr by HiFlyer

Good news. I often use KPSP as a destination airport. KPHX to KPSP is my preferred test route for most new aircraft purchases. 

Was there last Christmas, the museum is really good there. 

what, no water in the pools at 100 °F? not going there.

Back in the days of private training PSP was the first airport I learn importance density altitude calculation. Also PSP was the first airport I experience heat stroke in California LOL

 

56 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

importance density altitude calculation

at 100 °F, there is a reason the runway is 10.000 ft long even though field elevation is only 476 ft.

www.pilotfriend.com/safe/safety/density_altitude.htm

 "Before any flight check runway lengths at airports of intended use, and take off and landing distance information ... also ensure that the aircraft will be able to perform with an adequate safety margin under the expected values of airport elevation and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind and temperature.

 Density altitude is a term that sometimes causes confusion. A high density altitude is NOT a good thing. Density altitude is defined as the pressure altitude corrected for non-standard temperature variations. And while this is a correct definition, my definition is perhaps more appropriate: DENSITY ALTITUDE IS THE ALTITUDE THE AIRPLANE THINKS IT IS AT, AND PERFORMS IN ACCORDANCE WITH.

 Density altitude can be computed on a density altitude chart, flight computer, electronic flight calculator or by rule of thumb. Density altitude gives us some idea about the expected performance of the airplane, but only if you apply the information to the performance charts.

 An accurate rule of thumb (usually any error will be less than 300 feet) for determining the density altitude is easy to remember. For each 10-degrees Fahrenheit above standard temperature at any particular elevation, add 600 feet to the field elevation. (And, conversely for each 10-degrees F below standard temperature, subtract 600 feet.)

 Standard temperature at sea level is 59-degree Fahrenheit. For elevations above sea level, subtract 3.5 degrees per thousand feet of elevation from the sea level temperature of 59 degrees. For example, at Jackson, Wyoming the elevation is 6,444. Multiply 6.444 times 3.5 for 22.55. Subtract this from 59 (59-22.55) for 36.45. The standard temperature at Jackson is 36.5 degrees. If the existing temperature is 80 degrees, subtract (80-36.5 = 43.5). Divide this difference by 10 degrees (for each 10-degrees F above standard), and multiply 4.35 times 600 (600 feet per 10 degrees) equals 2,610. Add 2,610 to the field elevation (6,444) for a density altitude of 9,054. Under the existing conditions (of our example), the airplane will perform as it would on a standard day at 9,054 feet elevation.

 Density altitude not only affects the take off distance and rate of climb, but also applies to the service ceiling of the airplane while en route.

 A simple rule of thumb for determining take off distance exists that helps you deal with density altitude during take off. The only problem is that it does not guarantee rate of climb after take off, but it insures that you will be able to take off in the distance available for the runway involved."

Edited October 20, 20232 yr by turbomax

This looks really nice…as most iniBuilds stuff does…but they have consistently neglected performance through their whole product line, over, and over again. I’m starting to find it hard to support these guys if long-standing issues aren’t addressed. 

13 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

This looks really nice…as most iniBuilds stuff does…but they have consistently neglected performance through their whole product line, over, and over again. I’m starting to find it hard to support these guys if long-standing issues aren’t addressed. 

I'm a sucker for PSP scenery, but their JFK just crushed my vram especially in dx12.  And I've got a rtx 4080 with 16GB.  I'll have to wait for reviews 

32 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

This looks really nice…as most iniBuilds stuff does…but they have consistently neglected performance through their whole product line, over, and over again. I’m starting to find it hard to support these guys if long-standing issues aren’t addressed. 

Yup, with the PHNL scenery I get terrible performance degradation in this area and this area only within the airport.

At KLAX I get terrible performance degradation facing the north terminals and west departure runways only.

All other parts of these Inibuilds airports run pretty good and smooth , that's why it's such a pain with the problematic areas. 

I can run both airports I just really have to avoid those areas, or be patient enough to crawl through 10-20 FPS for a little bit.

Of course these are only my 1st world VR issues🤣, 2D mode does run much better, but the performance drops of those areas are still evident.

Even with a clear sky and no ai traffic in 2D mode.

Edited October 20, 20232 yr by blueshark747

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

at 100 °F, there is a reason the runway is 10.000 ft long even though field elevation is only 476 ft.

www.pilotfriend.com/safe/safety/density_altitude.htm

 "Before any flight check runway lengths at airports of intended use, and take off and landing distance information ... also ensure that the aircraft will be able to perform with an adequate safety margin under the expected values of airport elevation and runway slope, aircraft gross weight, and wind and temperature.

 Density altitude is a term that sometimes causes confusion. A high density altitude is NOT a good thing. Density altitude is defined as the pressure altitude corrected for non-standard temperature variations. And while this is a correct definition, my definition is perhaps more appropriate: DENSITY ALTITUDE IS THE ALTITUDE THE AIRPLANE THINKS IT IS AT, AND PERFORMS IN ACCORDANCE WITH.

 Density altitude can be computed on a density altitude chart, flight computer, electronic flight calculator or by rule of thumb. Density altitude gives us some idea about the expected performance of the airplane, but only if you apply the information to the performance charts.

 An accurate rule of thumb (usually any error will be less than 300 feet) for determining the density altitude is easy to remember. For each 10-degrees Fahrenheit above standard temperature at any particular elevation, add 600 feet to the field elevation. (And, conversely for each 10-degrees F below standard temperature, subtract 600 feet.)

 Standard temperature at sea level is 59-degree Fahrenheit. For elevations above sea level, subtract 3.5 degrees per thousand feet of elevation from the sea level temperature of 59 degrees. For example, at Jackson, Wyoming the elevation is 6,444. Multiply 6.444 times 3.5 for 22.55. Subtract this from 59 (59-22.55) for 36.45. The standard temperature at Jackson is 36.5 degrees. If the existing temperature is 80 degrees, subtract (80-36.5 = 43.5). Divide this difference by 10 degrees (for each 10-degrees F above standard), and multiply 4.35 times 600 (600 feet per 10 degrees) equals 2,610. Add 2,610 to the field elevation (6,444) for a density altitude of 9,054. Under the existing conditions (of our example), the airplane will perform as it would on a standard day at 9,054 feet elevation.

 Density altitude not only affects the take off distance and rate of climb, but also applies to the service ceiling of the airplane while en route.

 A simple rule of thumb for determining take off distance exists that helps you deal with density altitude during take off. The only problem is that it does not guarantee rate of climb after take off, but it insures that you will be able to take off in the distance available for the runway involved."

We not always get to enjoy long runways LOL Most of the time we get short one which is only 4952ft  Desert vs coastline temperature can vary significantly. So is weather conditions. We can have marine layer at the coast with 65F and 120F at PSP.

PSP was my long cross-country destination (when I was working on my PPL ). The firs. Leg to PSP was early in the morning and everything was smooth like butter. I took some rest and enjoy aviation museum. On the way back  I stopped at another airport before heading back. That when  "fun" started! Thermals were expected, but when I was crossing mountains JLI VOR I got my butt kicked! LOL I first I got updraft bouncing me 1000 ft + up scarring life our of me because I absolutely had no control of my Cherokee. Shortly came downdraft ! Boy I thought it was the end ! I dropped like a rock my charts were flying al over the cockpit LOL What a mess! Thanks for nice SoCal controller who vectored me safely home.

The bottom line I don't solo my students to PSP for cross country in the late summer early fall anymore. LOL

Anyway sorry for offopic

Here some photos flying from PSP to CRQ years later when I already got my instrument rating

From weather like this

to weather like that (below)

 

 

Dang, they made it so cheap I have to get it.

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

I'm a sucker for PSP scenery, but their JFK just crushed my vram especially in dx12.  And I've got a rtx 4080 with 16GB.  I'll have to wait for reviews 

Same. It was one of my first scenery purchases from ORBX back in FSX...or P3D..can't remember. Then I flew there during IOE at my first airline. I'm super tempted to get it, especially since it's only like $12. Must...wait....for....reviewsssssss...

2 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

This looks really nice…as most iniBuilds stuff does…but they have consistently neglected performance through their whole product line, over, and over again. I’m starting to find it hard to support these guys if long-standing issues aren’t addressed. 

I'm starting to feel this way too.  Honolulu can get so bad it's unusable in certian scenarios.  If I 'm at the A or B gates in that back alley it is really nasty on performance. At this point I'd probably switch to an FSDT version if it came out.  It might not be as appealing visually, but an airport as big as KIAH performs fantastic.   

Has anyone successfully bought it through IniManager?  I don't have the sale price showing and when I try to click buy I get a message that an error has occured.  I've updated the program to latest version.

I'm trying my best to be the guinea pig / early purchaser for you guys 🙂

@regis9

I can never get the iniManager to work, in terms of purchases. I go to the web store to buy and the manager to install. Too bad since the discount is through the manager only?