7 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

Hate to say this, but am I the only one in the world who's not that bothered about the EFB? There's a plethora of options available in the CDU and with Navigraph synced on my Ipad, what am I missing? 

Same here, while it looks OK, I can set the 737 pretty quickly for a flight, with Simbrief, and have not run into one problem. Now I admit I don't micromanage every pound of fuel or every foot of runway, and I also don't sort my paper clips in my desk  by atomic weight. I just like flying. I have Avliasoft EFB which I have used for years, and it gives me everything I need. 

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by Bobsk8

What does this thing do?

I keep hearing about it but don't understand why everyone is impatient for it.

If it's that hard to figure out what it does I don't know how it will actually help me fly my little thirty nine dollar 737-600

I don't have much excitement for the EFB as I’m able to do everything via the FMC and my VA's ACARS program which actually loads the fuel, weights and performance data to the PMDG 737. The EFB development reminds me of Apple. They introduce a new feature that has already been used by Android users for years.

What gets me excited are new quality level aircraft and major updates to existing aircraft that bring substantial changes like in the Fenix. What I'm waiting for is the TFDI MD-11, Fenix IAE/Block 2, iniBuild A300-600R, 787-9, PMDG 777, etc. Now these are things I can get excited about. 

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by Wise87

7 hours ago, B777ER said:

This and the added notes below show just how much they have fallen behind when compared to even freeware groups like Horizon, FBW and Headwind. Sadly, they really are nowhere near top tier anymore when it comes to innovation and product releases. Still waiting for the ARINC update to the navigation data and Lord knows when that will come and remind how many years ago that was announced? Those hoping for "additional features" in this tablet, don't hold your breath.

I wonder if it's because he doesn't want to expand the team as he's old school and only wants to work with the people he knows and feels comfortable working with, or it's because he doesn't pay the developers enough for top tier innovative solutions. 

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by Drumcode

Do we know if the EFB visibility will be configurable via the PMDG settings in the FMC as it was in the P3D version, as far as I remember?

7 minutes ago, Gadget FPV said:

Do we know if the EFB visibility will be configurable via the PMDG settings in the FMC as it was in the P3D version, as far as I remember?

Do you mean, can you select whether you have the tablet in your aircraft or not?  They did say it could be selected or not, as an option.

It's not an EFB. It's a tablet which integrates with aircraft systems. An EFB was present in the P3D version.

19 hours ago, micstatic said:

Not me. I don’t like the integrated Boeing one at all. Even if this one is not real world 

May I ask why? Because my personal prefence should not compromise realism. And unless I am mistaken, the tablet with the sync function is unrealistic. The real tablets dont offer copy to/from FMC afaik, which sometimes happened to be the cause of takeoff incidents (when crews e.g. entered the ZFW rather than TOW). Maybe someone who knows can clarify?

53 minutes ago, fsiscool said:

May I ask why? Because my personal prefence should not compromise realism. And unless I am mistaken, the tablet with the sync function is unrealistic. The real tablets dont offer copy to/from FMC afaik, which sometimes happened to be the cause of takeoff incidents (when crews e.g. entered the ZFW rather than TOW). Maybe someone who knows can clarify?

I imagine it's because many people don't have 45 minutes to an hour to spend on setting up a flight. Typing the values generated by the EFB into the FMC is an unnecessary extra step for most people who want to fly. Additionally, if you want that extra realism, you can just avoid pressing the sync button in the EFB and type in the data, no?

Could you imagine if all those 6-monthly training sessions in a full motion simulator required airline pilots to enter all the necessary data manually into the FMC before every scenario? They'd never be able to cover the training plan.

 

1 hour ago, Nuno Pinto said:

It's not an EFB. It's a tablet which integrates with aircraft systems. An EFB was present in the P3D version.

Tablet / EFB / UFT. Fundamentally it's all the same thing. Don't let marketing speak convince you otherwise.

It's not an "Electronic Flight Bag"??? For God's sake, I've been duped again!

30 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

Tablet / EFB / UFT. Fundamentally it's all the same thing. Don't let marketing speak convince you otherwise.

No. Different things, different names. If you don't understand that it's ok.

Here's a simpler example: A car and an airplane are both means of transportation... 'Fundamentally it's all the same thing'. Yeah all the same because cars can fly.

 

Funnily enough, here's a quote from Robert:

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I want to direct your attention right here at the beginning to the naming convention: This is not an "EFB (Electronic Flight Bag.)" An EFB is a device covered under regulatory guidance that is very tightly tailored toward flight planning and flight management tasks. It tends to be a brick. Limited in scope and lacking an open operating system upon which operators and crews can add in applications and features to enhance aeronautical decision making- and in the case of simming- enhance the simulation experience.

 

Edited October 23, 20232 yr by Nuno Pinto

Good to see it finally being released, however, totally shocking that the 737NG Options and Settings still remain in the FMC and not part of the Tablet.

2 hours ago, fsiscool said:

May I ask why? Because my personal prefence should not compromise realism. And unless I am mistaken, the tablet with the sync function is unrealistic. The real tablets dont offer copy to/from FMC afaik, which sometimes happened to be the cause of takeoff incidents (when crews e.g. entered the ZFW rather than TOW). Maybe someone who knows can clarify?

Most 737 sim pilots in the US do not use an integrated EFB.  They use ipads.  Those are the airlines that I personally fly in the sim.  The To/From FMC is not something I utilize regardless. 

42 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

No. Different things, different names. If you don't understand that it's ok.

Here's a simpler example: A car and an airplane are both means of transportation... 'Fundamentally it's all the same thing'. Yeah all the same because cars can fly.

This sounds unnecessarily pedantic and your example genuinely makes no sense here. An aircraft and a car have their own limitations that aren’t shared between the two. Tablet / UFT / EFB are all going to offer the same features. Rob’s writeup solely focused on class 3 EFBs for some reason when others exist so it also can’t be used an example for what classifies as an EFB.
 

Honestly @JRBarrett summarised why this whole naming fiasco is kind of silly. 

 

So have I got this right? The tablet isn't linked to the FMC? If so what's the point of it? Have I still got to fiddle though tens of pages of FMC settings and paste a sim brief flight plan into a sub folder deep within the community folder?  

Edited October 23, 20232 yr by jarmstro