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The dropdown list of favorite acft add-ons for MSFS is very poorly organized...had to search extensively to find even very popular add-ons like the PMDG acft.  I suspect the answers to that question are going to be skewed towards invalidity due to people not being able to find things in the list and giving up/moving on.

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14 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

he dropdown list of favorite acft add-ons for MSFS is very poorly organized...had to search extensively to find even very popular add-ons like the PMDG acft. 

For X-plane you had to type in the add ons , they didn't give us a dropdown list. This was almost like taken a exam. lol

My advice to others', plan to spend sometime and do a little research on what you have bought in the the last year, if you don't remember while doing the survey.

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1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

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42 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

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44 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

Yeah, that's push a lot of them do these days.

 

44 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

It appears slanted that way to make to whole process simpler and seems dumbed down while they leave it up to you to fill in the blanks where there is no drop down list of any products or things you would consider. They did supplied a list from the MSFS addon but from what I understand  from Bob Scott post, it wasn't done very well either. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

You'd be better served filling it in, if nothing else than for registering as your main sim. If people on the "lesser used" (going by last years results) platforms don't fill it in then it will skew the data even more towards MSFS.

For what it's worth I didn't see it as massively skewed towards MSFS.

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2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

In that case I won’t be bothering if they’re only interested in one simulator when there are three major ones.

I let them know at lease that our sim and its market is still alive and well. I find this year survey appearing the lease objective than past survey. I would have rather seen them use last years question for this year so that you can get a better feel for any changes. There is just too many chances that some folks will just skip listing their favorite addons or their purchases if they don't remember them all.  

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This was released at an interesting time for me. If it had been released a week ago, I would have selected P3Dv4 as my main flight simulator. In addition, the fact that I have only just installed Microsoft Flight Simulator made a few questions about addons somewhat tricky to answer.

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People are really complaining that the survey is biased? Wow. I wonder if that isn't preemptive damage control lol.

Anyway, I also think the way they designed the aircraft selection is bad. To get around it, I just started typing the name of the aircraft and it popped up from the list.

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25 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

You'd be better served filling it in, if nothing else than for registering as your main sim. If people on the "lesser used" (going by last years results) platforms don't fill it in then it will skew the data even more towards MSFS.

For what it's worth I didn't see it as massively skewed towards MSFS.

I should have time on Sunday. I won’t be answering any personal questions other than sex and age.

25 minutes ago, BobFS88 said:

I let them know at lease that our sim and its market is still alive and well.

I’ve never been happier with v5.4 after getting a new PC. I’ll have a look at the questions on Sunday.

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2 minutes ago, Krakin said:

People are really complaining that the survey is biased? Wow. I wonder if that isn't preemptive damage control lol.

Exactly!

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1 hour ago, Beardyman said:

Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing

Nonsense

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2 hours ago, Beardyman said:

1. In social media section there is no option 'none'.

They do not assume even that someone these days do not use one of those 😵

2. Survey is focused on MSFS like no other sims existing - detailed questions are about MSFS.

3. Too many personal data requested. 

I think that is what the "skip" button is for. At least that's what I used it for a few times.

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