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No, it doesn't.


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5 hours ago, kevinc5 said:

Does P3D support NVidia's frame generation?

I know you asked about P3D. But from my experience in not great in MSFS where it's available. There are trade off in using it. For example, the gauges and not crisp to look at while using. 


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But is that a consequence of FG or DLSS AA?


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15 hours ago, YukonPete said:

I know you asked about P3D. But from my experience in not great in MSFS where it's available. There are trade off in using it. For example, the gauges and not crisp to look at while using. 

The fuzziness is a result of using DLSS--with FG+TAA it works well.  I'd find it a welcome addition to P3D if LM ever decided to support it.

 

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Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
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41 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

The fuzziness is a result of using DLSS--with FG+TAA it works well.  I'd find it a welcome addition to P3D if LM ever decided to support it.

 

Thanks for the tip. I will go try it now.


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Back to topic: I understand P3D does not suport the DLSS3 Frame Generation from Nvidia. BUT, as you may see in this video, AMD drivers have something called "AMD Fluid Motion Frames". Pause this video at 0:36:

People have been using it for forcing FG in MSFS, as long as you have a RX6000 series card or higher. It requires DX12. Will this work in P3D?

 

 

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Even with my dated 9900KF cpu  a 4090 GPU + FG has been a game changer for me in MSFS - I expected artifacts but don't see any.  Unfortunately this new kit is of little benefit in P3D.

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On 12/8/2023 at 4:06 PM, Luis Hernandez said:

AMD drivers have something called "AMD Fluid Motion Frames". Pause this video at 0:36:

Forgot to say: this is not implemented in sim but at driver level. That's why I have some hopes, until someone with a Radeon tries it and confirms it works...or not.


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Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 5 5600X with PBO enabled (but default settings, CO -15 mV, and SMT ON), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX3060 Ti 8GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@23-144 Hz (locked at 120 Hz, FreeSync OFF), Windows 10 Pro. Runing FSX-SE, MSFS and P3D v5.44.5.

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there... sometimes on just battery! FSX-SE also installed, just in case. 

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