March 23, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, btacon said: I did exactly the same thing today with exactly the same results and rankings, except…I had forgotten just how GOOD the FBW is. Their EFB sets the bar for all who follow. -B Yep, and the flight dynamics even under Direct Law are by far the most consistent. My preferred feel of flight in MFS is the FBW 320 NEO... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
March 23, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, btacon said: I did exactly the same thing today with exactly the same results and rankings, except…I had forgotten just how GOOD the FBW is. Their EFB sets the bar for all who follow. -B To be fair I thought exactly the same, regarding the FBW. It was the hand flying, flaring and landing that struck me. Arguably feels nicer than the Fenix (although possibly not as realistic - I wouldn't know that). 😎 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 23, 20242 yr 55 minutes ago, RobJC said: iniBuilds is really hurting their reputation by releasing something like this. Not a good look. I believe it’s MSFS 2020’s choice, not Ini, but the damage remains Edited March 23, 20242 yr by btacon
March 23, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said: Honestly the A310 is actually okay not bad, I fly it often. It had some issues in SU14 but in 15Beta, actually works with no issues (at least for me) but of course the obvious bugs like the VNAV is sometimes a bit off but got used to it I really think I would fly the stock INI A310 more than their A300 (which I fly a lot), if it had better sounds, like the A300. Again, I do really like the A300 so it's not a criticism of that, I just prefer the mission of the A310. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 23, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, jcomm said: Yep, and the flight dynamics even under Direct Law are by far the most consistent. My preferred feel of flight in MFS is the FBW 320 NEO... I'd like to know this. The FBW A32NX feels much more direct/responsive, especially noticeable on flare. It flares just like the 737. The Fenix on the other side feels much more like setting a pitch angle target during flare, for the lack of better phrasing. The FSL A320 (unless my memory deceives me, it's been years...) was also much more direct. I'm not an Airbus pilot, so to all real Airbus pilots, please let me finally know: Does the real Airbus feel like the A32NX during flare or like the Fenix? For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
March 23, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, RobJC said: iniBuilds is really hurting their reputation by releasing something like this. Not a good look. They really aren't they are paid by Microsoft/Asobo to do exactly what they want/need. Lets just say IniBuilds are at the minute trying to rectify stuff that was said in a certain video which turns out be false in aspects. Unfortunately they are having to do work around's with the default atc in the sim. One of the devs did reply to me they aren't 100% sure of the version currently in the sim but the one they are using for testing is a completely different version.
March 23, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said: They really aren't they are paid by Microsoft/Asobo to do exactly what they want/need. Lets just say IniBuilds are at the minute trying to rectify stuff that was said in a certain video which turns out be false in aspects. Unfortunately they are having to do work around's with the default atc in the sim. One of the devs did reply to me they aren't 100% sure of the version currently in the sim but the one they are using for testing is a completely different version. When they released one of their airports i read a lot of complaints about it not being optimized, and it tanked fps. That right there gave me pause when trying any of their products. This is just another indication that something is going wrong internally, or externally. Also, how is the version in the sim not the same as what they expect it to be? Again, something is off here. I absolutely think this hurts their reputation. Jmho. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
March 23, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, RobJC said: When they released one of their airports i read a lot of complaints about it not being optimized, and it tanked fps. That right there gave me pause when trying any of their products. This is just another indication that something is going wrong internally, or externally. Also, how is the version in the sim not the same as what they expect it to be? Again, something is off here. I absolutely think this hurts their reputation. Jmho. Obviously airports who ever makes even freeware are badly optimized. I don't have that trouble anymore thankfully. The version has to go through the same testing process like PMDG go through to be accepted and loaded in. Nothing Ini can do about that. For instance next update we get on the 737 on PC. It can take a few months for that update to release just on Xbox and even then they could send out another update for us PC users mean while Xbox will have to wait again, nothing off about it. Guaranteed PMDG give a release candidate for us but the testers or devs will be on a completely different version to what we actually get because they are constantly trying to fix bugs etc.
March 23, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, JYW said: To be fair I thought exactly the same, regarding the FBW. It was the hand flying, flaring and landing that struck me. Arguably feels nicer than the Fenix (although possibly not as realistic - I wouldn't know that). 😎 Despite my bias, based on my multiple personal experiences with a certified full flight simulator, I can say that the fly-by-wire system is very similar to it.
March 24, 20242 yr 8 hours ago, Fiorentoni said: I'd like to know this. The FBW A32NX feels much more direct/responsive, especially noticeable on flare.... I'm not an Airbus pilot, so to all real Airbus pilots, please let me finally know: Does the real Airbus feel like the A32NX during flare or like the Fenix? Despite the overall excellence of the Fenix, I too prefer the feel of the FBW, especially on final approach, to the Fenix, and one or two real Airbus pilots on YouTube have said that the FBW feels more natural and realistic, even despite the obvious improvements of V2 Fenix. The Fenix is very frustrating. It's outstanding for 98% of the flight but the dynamics still fall apart and are disappointing in the final 100 feet, even despite the real V2 upgrade. If it could land like the FBW, it'd be perfect. Edited March 24, 20242 yr by Iiari
March 24, 20242 yr 8 hours ago, RobJC said: When they released one of their airports i read a lot of complaints about it not being optimized, and it tanked fps. That right there gave me pause when trying any of their products. This is just another indication that something is going wrong internally, or externally. Also, how is the version in the sim not the same as what they expect it to be? Again, something is off here. I absolutely think this hurts their reputation. Jmho. If the upcoming A350 was being done by a developer with a good reputation it would be a first day buy for me, it won't be with inibuilds, and that's because of how this A320 has been rolled out and the obvious issues. Whether its Asobo's fault or inis the whole episode has been a stinker but they have time to turn around hopefully. B450 Tomahawk Max / Ryzen 7 5800x3D / RTX 3060ti 8G / Noctua NH-UI21S Max Cooling / 32G Patriot RAM / 1TB NVME / 450G SSD / Thrustmaster TCA & Throttle Quadrant / Xiaomi 32" Wide Curved Monitor 1440p 144hz
March 24, 20242 yr 15 hours ago, btacon said: Their EFB sets the bar for all who follow. -B This is the last thing i look for in a simulated aircraft. Oddly enough, it seems to be how people measure quality nowadays. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
March 24, 20242 yr uhh, I am on the beta but where do I find the ini 320? I would expect it in the market place? cannot see it there in the airliners section? just wondering Edited March 24, 20242 yr by DAD Phil Leaven i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"
March 24, 20242 yr 25 minutes ago, DAD said: uhh, I am on the beta but where do I find the ini 320? I would expect it in the market place? cannot see it there in the airliners section? just wondering It just ends up in your hanger. Search for "v2" and it will be there.
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