I am for duplication when it brings something better. For instance the P51.  I am no fan of AH and I long for A2A bringing me back Glamorous Gal. I am glad there are two Porter, the MV being better than the MSFS default. 

9 hours ago, STK said:

From the developer:

“About the aircraft…

I wouldn’t compare it to A2A or Black Square’s aircraft. The systems I have implemented are nowhere near as complex as theirs. To be honest, the actual aircraft doesn’t even have flaps.
All the instruments, work as expected in an aircraft like this but I have no under the hood temperatures damaging cylinders or pressure losses or similar features.

For a someone who looks for a hardcore simulation experience I might not have reached his expectations. If in the other hand he was looking for an Errol Flynn like Silver Screen experience…I hopefully might be closer…

I did read the comments about duplicated aircraft.

When the 4AT was released I had already spent a lot of time in the 5AT and, this being a personal project and a different version, I wasn’t going to stop making it. I also remember Taog releasing a video of another Ford Trimotor before that too.

It is inevitable that teams and individuals might start the same project based on personal preferences when they don’t know about each other. All you can do is try to do your best.”

Fair comment, and I sincerely wish him all the best - I understand he wants to finish what he has started. 
I will keep my eye on it, but as it is not a deep systems aircraft (as much as you can have in a ford Tri-motor ), sales numbers will probably be dependent on price, as the one on the marketplace really isn't that bad as a representation, and it is very reasonably priced.
If it isn't expensive, I could probably end up buying it, as I am a sucker for these kind of aircraft. 

Edit:  I just took a look at the website.  Artistically it is looking like a masterpiece without a doubt, so how it flies and how it sounds will be important.

The developer is in talks as of next week with vendors while he finalizes a couple things. Aiming for a June release guessing through the usual suspects of Orbx, Simmarket, etc.

If the flight dynamics match that 3D model and texturing, it'll be superb. With every Airbus that's released, the more I love these old steam-age aeroplanes.

On 4/11/2024 at 1:46 AM, STK said:

For a someone who looks for a hardcore simulation experience I might not have reached his expectations. If in the other hand he was looking for an Errol Flynn like Silver Screen experience…I hopefully might be closer…

I always like to pop in to these discussions to offer support to the developer. Not all of us are looking for total accuracy in flight models, failure damage and suchlike. This looks wonderful, and that's enough for me. Be nice if it sounds good too but even that's not critical to me as I tend to have the sound only just about audible most of the time. But the rest of it? Not bothered, in fact I wouldn't touch it if required me to faff about with realistic startup procedures etc.

Now that SU15 is out, has anyone heard anything further about the release date ? The more I look at it, the more I want it.

Just purchased this - about to fly it. Could totally justify it cause it's a different model than AH one - that one is 4AT, this one is 5AT, so both can coexist. 🙂

Well... flew this and then the AH one to remind myself. This is BETTER than AH... Sounds are better, the aircraft flies nicely, trims out really well, and performs well. I can't say the same for the AH one, that one is kind of all over the place and the sounds are awful. Here's the downside. It's pretty shallow in terms of systems, there are non-functioning switches... there is a mysterious "Autopilot" switch, which I am not sure what it does since there isn't any documentation on it nor are there any means to control this supposed autopilot. It didn't seem to do anything when I tried to enable it in flight. There are some lower-resolution scratches on the metal in the cockpit (on the left side... by the windows). That's a minor gripe. 

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't offer skis or floats like the AH version does, nor does it offer any modern navigation options (that one is forgivable if the intent was to deliver a historically accurate version, but nowadays any remaining aircraft would most likely be equipped with SOMETHING)... 

 

I didn't see a way to hide yokes... Also, the default camera position is a little high, but again, that's just nitpicking. 

 

It's probably one of those things I will fly only once in a blue moon. I wasn't really blown away, but it's passable and better than AH. However, pretty much anything is better than AH because their standard is the bottom of the barrel. Gonna see if Taog does a better one... This was $25, so no buyer's remorse or anything, it's cheap and better than the alternative, though it's nice that AH version has a GNS unit as an optional panel. 

 

It seems this is the author's first aircraft and for that, it's an absolutely solid showing. Perhaps someone can clarify that "Autopilot" deal. 

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by BostonJeremy77

8 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

Well... flew this and then the AH one to remind myself. This is BETTER than AH... Sounds are better, the aircraft flies nicely, trims out really well, and performs well. I can't say the same for the AH one, that one is kind of all over the place and the sounds are awful. Here's the downside. It's pretty shallow in terms of systems, there are non-functioning switches... there is a mysterious "Autopilot" switch, which I am not sure what it does since there isn't any documentation on it nor are there any means to control this supposed autopilot. It didn't seem to do anything when I tried to enable it in flight. There are some lower-resolution scratches on the metal in the cockpit (on the left side... by the windows). That's a minor gripe. 

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't offer skis or floats like the AH version does, nor does it offer any modern navigation options (that one is forgivable if the intent was to deliver a historically accurate version, but nowadays any remaining aircraft would most likely be equipped with SOMETHING)... 

 

I didn't see a way to hide yokes... Also, the default camera position is a little high, but again, that's just nitpicking. 

 

It's probably one of those things I will fly only once in a blue moon. I wasn't really blown away, but it's passable and better than AH. However, pretty much anything is better than AH because their standard is the bottom of the barrel. Gonna see if Taog does a better one... This was $25, so no buyer's remorse or anything, it's cheap and better than the alternative, though it's nice that AH version has a GNS unit as an optional panel. 

 

It seems this is the author's first aircraft and for that, it's an absolutely solid showing. Perhaps someone can clarify that "Autopilot" deal. 

Thanks for the quick look. My understanding is that Taog cancelled their version because of this (and the AH) one. Tukan is planning on posting an update and new feature roadmap on his website soon. 

For sure, I hope Tukan updates this, because the foundation is VERY solid. It just needs... tweaking. Minor things. If the autopilot doesn't do anything, just take out the switch, that's all. Maybe look at the metal panel with the scratches and up those in resolution if possible. The rest is a very good aircraft. It's not really my kind of a bird without any modern navigation options, because VOR to VOR flying is a pain in the rear and those things are getting decommissioned faster than you can say the word. But again, I won't hold it against the aircraft if the intent was to deliver an authentic old-school bird. The startup sequence works great. And again, everything just has a lot more character than the AH one.  

It lacks a way to hide the yoke? If so, I don't want it even if it's free.

2 hours ago, Fielder said:

It lacks a way to hide the yoke? If so, I don't want it even if it's free.

The yoke can't be hidden yet, but as it is, very little is obscured by it. Looking at the screenshot below, and taking the yoke as a clock face: at 9 you have the red  parking brake; at about 1, you have the left manifold pressure gauge and at 3 you have the left magneto switch. All of the them can be seen by a slight movement of the head to the right using Tobii or Track IR. There's nothing else hidden.

Ok thanks. I was waiting for a tri motor. I'll pass on this one.

The issue is that the default camera is way too high, just like in all the AH stuff. You CAN assign quick views, but... I still want the yokes gone if I want that. Hopefully, and update at some point will cure that. 

I bought and I think it's a good flying plane, systems wise these old airplanes were very simple so I'm not sure how much depth a developer can put in them. Wear and tear isn't really needed in sim,it's the most annoying aspect of operating planes in real life