Excited about the A400M. That’s one beautiful plane. I wonder how high the fidelity will be up front in the cockpit. It’s got some pretty advanced avionics and HUD’s. Here’s to hoping that they do it some service and it’s as close as possible. 

Luvvly Jubbly! The A400M will be very welcome in my hangar, and I do love a weird airliner conversion!👌

This is really awesome and unprecedented. How fantastic is it gonna be to see a sim come out and from day one, every default plane is high quality.

Both aircraft were shown in the 2024 trailer, just didn't know that it came from IniBuilds.

Darryl

3 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Pretty sure the default A330 in MSFS 2024 (also showin the trailer I believe?) will be iniBuild's too 🙂 
 

I think the A330 is from live/static traffic. 

5 hours ago, thepilot said:

"How many aircraft do you want to develop simultaneously?"

Inibuilds: "Yes"

Can't be good for the quality of each individual aircraft...

Inibuilds  have a good rep for aircraft , just because they don't take years like a certain other developer does not mean it will be bad quality. 

8 hours ago, Krakin said:

This is really awesome and unprecedented. How fantastic is it gonna be to see a sim come out and from day one, every default plane is high quality.

Have you had a private preview of these aircraft?

So this means it's not the A400M from Roland Laborie that was shown in the MSFS2024... I'm glad for Inibuild having success, but I wish other devs such as Roland would get a slice of the cake as well... His A400M, after the recent updates, is quite nice already in MSFS.

5 hours ago, jason74 said:

Inibuilds  have a good rep for aircraft , just because they don't take years like a certain other developer does not mean it will be bad quality. 

Yes, and I didn't say that. But the more aircraft they develop concurrently, the less resources can be spent on each individual one. And that can't be good for quality, can it?

Right now, iniBuilds are developing the A220, A320, BelugaXL (A330), A350, A380 and A400M. Plus supporting the A300/A310. That seems like way too much to take on, even for a big team.

54 minutes ago, thepilot said:

Yes, and I didn't say that. But the more aircraft they develop concurrently, the less resources can be spent on each individual one. And that can't be good for quality, can it?

I believe iniBuilds hired more developers though. So they actually have more developer resources in total. Granted, it may take time to train developers so that they are up to speed on the API (both iniBuild's API and the MSFS API), and they are also up to speed with certain knowledge needed to develop aircraft (if they don't have that knowledge already). But assuming iniBuilds can get those developers up to speed, they can afford to spend the same number of developers per aircraft project. Then it's simply a matter if they can get the proper management in place to oversee their projects.

It's the same thing with PMDG. I believe PMDG hired more developers as well, so they are now working on multiple projects at the same time - 777, 737 Max, and the secret unspecified project.  For PMDG, the challenge is management, that is, can Randazzo oversee all the different project and ensure quality, and if he can't, then did Randazzo hire managers (or promote older employees to managers) to help oversee all the multiple projects.

Edited April 25, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, thepilot said:

Yes, and I didn't say that. But the more aircraft they develop concurrently, the less resources can be spent on each individual one. And that can't be good for quality, can it?

Right now, iniBuilds are developing the A220, A320, BelugaXL (A330), A350, A380 and A400M. Plus supporting the A300/A310. That seems like way too much to take on, even for a big team.

Yes, and don't forget all of their light aircraft they have to support, including the local legend series for the sim, where they do lots, including the just released Do-31 and the upcoming Skyvan.

I will say that some of the issues with the A300 / A310 seemed to be due to WASM issues in the simulator that have now been fixed (according to the recent developer twitch session), so it is worth giving them the benefit of the doubt on those issues.
I wonder if the WASM stack overflow issue mentioned was causing the infamous drop out of the sky issue, as any stack overflow event is normally pretty catastrophic.

10 hours ago, ca_metal said:

I think the A330 is from live/static traffic. 

Ya could well be I guess.. it's just that before they announced the A350 and A380, they did pretty much confirm on discord they have an A330 in the works or in plan (also there are those A330 related files found in the early versions of the ini A320 which were then removed). Now with the BelugaXL (i.e. A330-743L) confirmed, I can't help but think there'll be an ini A330 in the MSFS 2024 default fleet too 🙂

Of course ini are being their usual coy and ambiguous selves.. when asked about having had early access to MSFS 2024 and its SDK, whether they're also doing an A330, etc on discord only the below answers were given.. at least they didn't flat out say no 😅

"The thing to take away from this is that its best to just wait and see what comes and when"
"2024 will be a fantastic year for flightsimming for sure"
 

Edited April 25, 20242 yr by lwt1971

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

"The thing to take away from this is that its best to just wait and see what comes and when"
"2024 will be a fantastic year for flightsimming for sure"

Haha I know these quotes very well because I was the one who started the talk about them lying about the Beluga on discord which prompted the first quote. The second quote was a response (not a quoted reply tho) to me saying a sim launching with a full lineup of high quality aircraft is unprecedented. At the very least we can speculate that they are very impressed with whatever they've seen lol.

They also confirmed to another user that the A350 will indeed be dropping sometime this year.

On a side note, I've noticed that iniBuilds have been judged unfairly. The first thing we need to realize is that anything locked into the MSFS marketplace is going to be updated at a glacial pace and at the discretion of MS. It makes no sense bashing iniBuilds for the A310 when MS is the one determining when the plane gets updated.

The A300 came out and yes, it did have its problems but iniBuilds gave the plane regular updates and even dropped a V2 very recently that I am very happy with at the moment and I do not think it suffers in the quality department. The best people to know what iniBuilds can and cannot handle is iniBuilds themselves and not us on the outside looking in. In the same way MSFS continues to do away with conventions we were used to, maybe we need to wake up to the reality that a high volume of quality aircraft can be pumped out as long as the resources are in place. iniBuilds employs about the same amount of people Laminar Research does, don't they?

 

Edited April 25, 20242 yr by Krakin

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

Ya could well be I guess.. it's just that before they announced the A350 and A380, they did pretty much confirm on discord they have an A330 in the works or in plan (also there are those A330 related files found in the early versions of the ini A320 which were then removed). Now with the BelugaXL (i.e. A330-743L) confirmed, I can't help but think there'll be an ini A330 in the MSFS 2024 default fleet too 🙂

Of course ini are being their usual coy and ambiguous selves.. when asked about having had early access to MSFS 2024 and its SDK, whether they're also doing an A330, etc on discord only the below answers were given.. at least they didn't flat out say no 😅

"The thing to take away from this is that its best to just wait and see what comes and when"
"2024 will be a fantastic year for flightsimming for sure"
 

I’m guessing they’re sharing coding between the A320N and the BelugaXL/A330

Since the Beluga would have started development first presumably because it was in the 2024 trailer.

Edited April 25, 20242 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, Krakin said:

Haha I know these quotes very well because I was the one who started the talk about them lying about the Beluga on discord which prompted the first quote. The second quote was a response (not a quoted reply tho) to me saying a sim launching with a full lineup of high quality aircraft is unprecedented. At the very least we can speculate that they are very impressed with whatever they've seen lol.

They also confirmed to another user that the A350 will indeed be dropping sometime this year.

Ah ok 🙂 .. and yup MSFS 2024 looks to be (unsurprisingly) continuing the trend set with v2020 to redefine what level of fidelity is provided in the core sim, be it default aircraft or otherwise (and good to be free of mindsets that say otherwise from the times of legacy sims)

I get the concerns of some who feel iniBuilds are taking too much on, but they've also expanded the team pretty substantially, and yes even though there were initial bugs they've at least quickly and frequently been fixing A300 to its current state, which is one of definite high fidelity (and bodes well for their upcoming A350, A380, etc).

Their close working relationship with MS/Asobo during 2024 development also will likely mean they have a leg up on learning the SDK and internals of new features to take advantage of (such as for example the coming capability to define the aircraft surfaces/geometry/wings/etc much more precisely than currently possible).
 

Edited April 25, 20242 yr by lwt1971