Short video demonstrating how immersive VoxATC can be. Taxi, takeoff and departure from Düsseldorf, Germany's 3rd busiest airport.

Next video will be a demonstration of a shared cockpit session (using VoxATC) from Gatwick to Manchester. 

15 hours ago, AJZip said:

Excellent video @Cpt_Piett  

Thanks, much appreciated! 

Edited June 3, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Next video will be a demonstration of a shared cockpit session (using VoxATC) from Gatwick to Manchester. 

Preview:

 

 

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 

Shared cockpit looks fun … might have to look into that 🙂

ATC seems advanced and interactive - but not sure I could endure the robo-voices 😵‍💫

1 hour ago, tfm said:

ATC seems advanced and interactive - but not sure I could endure the robo-voices 😵

Robo-voices? I guess that's in the ear of the beholder - I think they sound great. With Win11 natural voices we have access to hundreds of accents from all over the world. But again, everyone's got their own preferences which is 100% understandable.

EDIT: I can relate to what you're saying re: robo-voices. To some extent, I agree. At least for some of the voices. 

Edited June 4, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

Just made a quick video demonstrating the voices I've been using in the many videos in this thread. I would like your honest opinions - are they good enough? Would you pay for additional voices? It doesn't really matter what my opinion is. I'd like to know what YOU think. Feel free to compare with other ATC addons - but let's not start a flame-war 🙂

 

Thanks again for all the videos. It is difficult to judge when we do not know what is paid and what is free. Can you make another?!? video with just free voices? The English speaking voices sounds great, while others (like the Portuguese in other videos) I feel have too strong accent. 

 

I guess the English are paid and the Portuguese is free.

25 minutes ago, espent said:

Can you make another?!? video with just free voices? The English speaking voices sounds great, while others (like the Portuguese in other videos) I feel have too strong accent. 

I agree that some of the foreign accents seem a bit overdone. Have a look at my recent flights in Germany - only German natural voices there (Win11). I think I've also done some flights to/over Norway, Denmark, Sweden, France, Italy and Switzerland - only free voices. 

25 minutes ago, espent said:

I guess the English are paid and the Portuguese is free.

I have 4-5 British voices and there are probably 4-5 Win11 British voices, if not more. US has the most voices IIRC. I think the (paid) CereProc voices are definitely better, but not "I would do a paid subscription" better. 

Edited June 4, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

58 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I would like your honest opinions - are they good enough?

In my opinion: Some are almost there. The English voices need some tuning (if possible), they sound more like public announcements than ATC transmissions.

The non-English voices aren't good. They just pronounce English words as if they were their language, which a) is partly incomprehensible and b) often doesn't sound realistic at all.

58 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Would you pay for additional voices?

That depends. At the moment, I think BATC has the best approach concerning voices: Good voices for a single purchase, and optionally even better voices that have to be paid for according to usage.

Also important: Radio static and adverse and squelch effects, which are partly already implemented.

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I'd like to know what YOU think.

Another great video, thanks Piett. Just to clarify, all the voices im hearing here are all Windows 11 natural voices? No Cereproc? If so, this is more than good enough for me but I understand others have preference. Also do you know if VoxATC supports different transponder codes for aircraft that are not RNAV capable? For example not slotting you into RNAV STARs but rather giving you vectors or even flying DME arcs (if that's even a thing irl, no idea). Maybe @kevinfirth knows.

 

**edit

I remember listening to another video when you were in France and I agree with other that the regional accents are overtly strong at times, the french one I really struggled with haha.

Edited June 4, 20242 yr by Lucky38i

52 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Another great video, thanks Piett. Just to clarify, all the voices im hearing here are all Windows 11 natural voices? No Cereproc? If so, this is more than good enough for me but I understand others have preference. Also do you know if VoxATC supports different transponder codes for aircraft that are not RNAV capable? For example not slotting you into RNAV STARs but rather giving you vectors or even flying DME arcs (if that's even a thing irl, no idea). Maybe @kevinfirth knows.

 

**edit

I remember listening to another video when you were in France and I agree with other that the regional accents are overtly strong at times, the french one I really struggled with haha.

Be grateful they were in accented English. French pilots and controllers often eschew it in favour of speaking French! 🤣🤣

1 hour ago, d.tsakiris said:

In my opinion: Some are almost there. The English voices need some tuning (if possible), they sound more like public announcements than ATC transmissions.

The non-English voices aren't good. They just pronounce English words as if they were their language, which a) is partly incomprehensible and b) often doesn't sound realistic at all.

That depends. At the moment, I think BATC has the best approach concerning voices: Good voices for a single purchase, and optionally even better voices that have to be paid for according to usage.

Also important: Radio static and adverse and squelch effects, which are partly already implemented.

Yes Vox already has filters, static effects and a combination of the 2.  This means in essence you can have 4 different 'effects' for each individual voice 👍

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

Another great video, thanks Piett.

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

Just to clarify, all the voices im hearing here are all Windows 11 natural voices? No Cereproc?

Some might have been CereProc. My bad, forgot about that! I'll do a quick video from an approach to Heathrow using 100% UK natural voices. AI pilot voices will be from anywhere though. 

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

I remember listening to another video when you were in France and I agree with other that the regional accents are overtly strong at times, the french one I really struggled with haha.

Haha definitely! IMO some of the foreign accents are quite good e.g. some German, Italian and French ones. It's a bit of a hit and miss though. 

I have BATC and currently testing it in UK, Germany, France. Each have there strengths and weaknesses. 

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Just made a quick video demonstrating the voices I've been using in the many videos in this thread. I would like your honest opinions - are they good enough? Would you pay for additional voices? It doesn't really matter what my opinion is. I'd like to know what YOU think. Feel free to compare with other ATC addons - but let's not start a flame-war 🙂

 

I can't really keep up watching all the videos you create. 🙂 From the parts I listened to this is my take:

I agree with what someone already said: Sometimes the non-english voices just read the english text as if it was a text in their own language. I have already heared that  with the cabin announcements of A Pliot's Life. I think this is absolutely a no-go. That is not an immersive accent but just ridiculous and destroying the immersion.

The english voices are mostly okay but - like someone has said before - I also think they often sound more like an advertising announcement in a supermarket than like ATC.

Also the radio noise effect could be more realistic I think. I've heared better effects in other apps.

But what strikes me the most is that the non-english voices seem to be just randomly assigned, what again does not enhance the immersion but rather break it. I wouldn't expect a Delta pilot with an eastern European accent or a Condor pilot with a southern European accent. It think it is essential that these voices are automatically assigned appropriately.

 

Other than that I noticed in your departure out of EDDL that runway 23R was generally used for departure. AFAIK this never happens IRL under normal circumstances - 23R is only used for arrivals in certain hours of the day. So - possibly I missed it - does VoxATC take real life practices into account? Or is it planned that such real life practices could be customized by the users?

Edited June 4, 20242 yr by RALF9636

9 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

I can't really keep up watching all the videos you create.

I can hardly keep up with them myself 🙂

9 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

I agree with what someone already said: Sometimes the non-english voices just read the english text as if it was a text in their own language. I have already heared that  with the cabin announcements of A Pliot's Life. I think this is absolutely a no-go. That is not an immersive accent but just ridiculous and destroying the immersion.

I think my expectations are not as high as yours - definitely not a deal-breaker. Realistic vectoring, control of AI aircraft, phraseology = a lot more important. But like I've mentioned - my opinion doesn't really matter much - I was more interested in hearing what other people think. So thanks for commenting - appreciated!

9 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

But what strikes me the most is that the non-english voices seem to be just randomly assigned, what again does not enhance the immersion but rather break it. I wouldn't expect a Delta pilot with an eastern European accent or a Condor pilot with a southern European accent. It think it is essential that these voices are automatically assigned appropriately.

A valid and fair point. We only started to use these voices less than a week ago, so it'll take some time to sort out everything in terms of getting everything automated. I agree with what you say, but again, for me, not a deal-breaker. 

9 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

Other than that I noticed in your departure out of EDDL that runway 23R was generally used for departure. AFAIK this never happens IRL under normal circumstances. So - possibly I missed it - does VoxATC take real life practices into account? Or is it planned that such real life practices could be customized by the users?

I wouldn't know, sorry. How's BATC with regards to this? I haven't used it much since I started beta testing Vox. I've done a few flights with BATC today though, so I do have some thoughts. Maybe I'll do a comparison video - would that be useful? E.g. same departure, same runway, same time etc. 

BTW: If there's one video I would recommend, it's the shared cockpit session Gatwick to Manchester. In my very honest opinion, that was a higher level of realism that what I've experienced before in my 20+ years of flight simming. So much fun!

Edited June 4, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett