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"New" FSX360 B717 on Marketplace - looks to be Captain Sim ?

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There is a "new" & cheap B717-200 now available on the Marketplace from developer FSX360 - however the ONLY relevant reference to FSX360 I could find is in the thread here on the MSFS CS B717-200 referring to the directory structure of the installed version so I did some cursory checking and spotted that not only is the Marketplace text and the CS Store page text identical, screenshots of the Marketplace 717 are using the "CS" livery of the Captain Sim version and indeed one of the screenshots is almost weirdly identical to on the CS store page.

I can't say what's going on here - is FX360 a separate dev team that have split from CS ? Are CS using a new name to avoid any unfortunate associations ?
I don't know but without a clear explanation I'm not sure how much confidence I could have even if it's not actually the CS version.
 

CS Webstore

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Marketplace

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Edited by Matchstick
Added link to AVSim post mentioning FSX360

There's a saying in Spanish that says ladrón que roba a ladrón, cien años de perdón (something like "It's no crime to steal from a thief").

Very fitting for this case 😝

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

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I bought this word not allowedbrick when it first came out and the folder has always been called "aircraft-fsx360-B717"  it is interesting that they have now officially called themselves FSX360 in the market place.  Make no mistake this is 100% Captain Sim's product.

If I had to guess it's because they have made extensive changes to the aircraft. The change log since the beginning of the year is extensive.  I haven flown it in months when I used it for a you tube video seeing if the improvements in v1.1 made it better.

Now they are on Ver 1.104. with new engine sounds and PFD ND and actual 717 aural warnings in that weird robotic lady voice.  

Smart people know what to make from this, let's enlighten the world and stop the money milkers who are destroying the community.

Edited by Piotr007

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Well seems like even in the marketplace full of noobs and innocuous people CaptainSim has already ruined his name!

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

Dang, this brings back not-so-fond memories of Papa Tango/Peter Tishma rebranding as Ariane Design after burning PT down in the most epic dumpster fire in flightsim history. 

Of course, it didn't take long before the community got a strong whiff of the smoldering ruins under the new banner...

Caveat Emptor

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1 hour ago, Bob Scott said:

Dang, this brings back not-so-fond memories of Papa Tango/Peter Tishma rebranding as Ariane Design after burning PT down in the most epic dumpster fire in flightsim history. 

Of course, it didn't take long before the community got a strong whiff of the smoldering ruins under the new banner...

Caveat Emptor

Don't I know! What a lovely aircraft that 737 turned out to be.

Jude Bradley
Beech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?
ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry.

X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020  🙂

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8 hours ago, Piotr007 said:

let's enlighten the world and stop the money milkers who are destroying the community.

pay to beta has already done that

 
 
 
 
 
  913456

FSX360 is such a weird name, why name your company after a much much earlier predecessor of MSFS?

Dave

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2 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

pay to beta has already done that

Not really. Even the early access aircraft have been better than CS’s

Edited by Tuskin38

On 6/2/2024 at 5:43 AM, Zangoose said:

A user did post asking for clarity on this on the CaptainSim forums and they came back with this answer:

Ah, lipstick on a pig then 🤦‍♂️

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

Are they trying to rebrand Capt. Sim as the (relatively) respected company it was way back in the day, when they actually released products that they'd developed instead of just asset-copied? Maybe they're shoving the asset copies over to this FSX360 thing now. Or vice versa?  Otherwise it makes no sense. Yugo did not have a spinoff for a reason... 😉

 

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