21 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

For some of the comparison photos, it looks like even the time of year was different (ie. the MSFS 2024 photo showing winter and snow, the MSFS 2020 photo showing it's spring):

If the time of day, height and camera angle, and season can be matched, it would make it easier to compare.

I know, I didn't have the patience to find the exact time, date and angle. It was more about comparing imagery and DEM. That's why I included screenshots that show the scenery without snow and in daylight (but if there's snow in the trailer I also included a screenshot with snow; note that in some cases there are several screnshots per location). 

Here's the coordinates, in case anyone wants to make more accurate comparisons or check out the places in the sim.

Aspen:
Lat: 39.0658314747915 / Long: -106.860962566869

Ullsfjorden 1:

Lat: 69.6405523741462 / Long: 19.9742476594119

Ullsfjorden 2:
Lat: 69.7146261751844 / Long: 19.8770428350779

Chile:

Lat: -19.5474901804127 / Long: -70.1932709594836

3 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

Do not compare actual game VS trailers, you may have a huge disappointment when FS2024 is released. 

Even with improved AI generated terrain, I doubt for example that all the mountains will look like this:

Ya only the areas with good resolution DEM data paired with the new AI tech and the new "photogrammetry for the countryside" tech will look the best.. but they've also added higher quality DEM to various spots around the world.

What I'm most intrigued about and and waiting to see how it looks in practice would be the the areas of the world which have poor DEM/photogrammetry/other data. This is where their "3D out of 2D" AI tech will come into play, like the Mt Kilimanjaro example they spoke about here: https://youtu.be/VPhScg_FINE?t=1023 
 

Edited June 12, 20241 yr by lwt1971

I hope that they have better vector data for Greenland. The lakes and some of the coastlines around my MK Studios BGSF Kangerlussuaq airport scenery package look like polygons from the 1990s, and they have large areas of black textures in them. Not sure what that is all about.

8 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

Do not compare actual game VS trailers, you may have a huge disappointment when FS2024 is released. 

Even with improved AI generated terrain, I doubt for example that all the mountains will look like this:

I think that mountain range is photogrammetry, just based off the rendering artifacts on the right side here

Edited June 12, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

I think that mountain range is photogrammetry, just based off the rendering artifacts on the right side here

Yes it must be. This might help us narrow down the location since I doubt that they‘d make photogrammetry of some „random“ place. But it‘s still difficult because it probably looks quite different in Bing Maps.

Has anyone tried reverse Google searching it?

7 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Has anyone tried reverse Google searching it?

I tried it but it seems to be more interested in the sailplane than the mountain…

Mountains

The weather is totally different in these comparison shots...not sure what they prove.

1 hour ago, mikegrr said:

The weather is totally different in these comparison shots...not sure what they prove.

They're comparing just the scenery, the stuff on the ground, not the entire picture

 

Edited June 13, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

-double post-

Edited June 13, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

3 hours ago, mikegrr said:

The weather is totally different in these comparison shots...not sure what they prove.

Yes, as Tuskin wrote, I was more interested in the scenery. I wanted to see whether things such as imagery or DEM have been improved. I probably should have given it a different title but that‘s not possible anymore. 

So far the only real difference I can see is that the rendering of snow looks better. Steep rocky sections now seem to be less snow-covered, which looks much more realistic (see Aspen screenshot). And of course the trees look much better.

Edited June 13, 20241 yr by Shack95

On 6/11/2024 at 6:09 AM, tup61 said:

he waves are WAY TOO BIG! Totally out of proportion!

They probably made very windy for that shot. You can get waves that look similar to that in 2020.

18 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

They probably made very windy for that shot. You can get waves that look similar to that in 2020.

LOL I know, they are also way too big in 2020. :) Was hoping I'd never see that again in 2024.

I think I’ve found the photogrammetry mountain from the trailer. It’s the Tête d'Amont in the Hautes-Alpes department in southeastern France (Lat: 44.8316550475827 / Long: 6.54295854300218).

This is a comparison with Google Street View. Although the angle is not exactly the same, you can still clearly see that the contours of the mountain are identical.

The scene was most likely taken shortly after the planes took off from the Mont-Dauphin-Saint-Crépin airfield, which is over 15 kilometers away from the mountain, so it’s massively zoomed in.

This is what it looks like in MSFS 2020 (graphics settings maxed out).

What a difference!

Up close, the mountain doesn't look that much better either.

As these comparisons show, we’re in for a real treat!

Jörg said on Saturday that Microsoft had acquired 1 million square kilometers of "countryside TIN". That's about the size of France, Germany and Iceland combined. Or four times the size of the UK. His long-term prediction is that one day the whole world will look like this!  

I know trailers always look great and these "photogrammetry for countryside" areas could turn out to be a LOD popping/morphing nightmare. But even so, I think this scene clearly shows that we can expect massive visual improvements in MSFS 2024.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Shack95