June 14, 20241 yr Since Flysimware C414AW Chancellor is on sale I have been thinking about getting it. But I would like to know how does it compare to the similar steam gauge overhaul planes like Baron 58 and analog King air ? I am mainly thinking about depth of simulation and realistic behaviour. The C414 is cheapest for now but could it be better to pay a little more for an overhauled plane. What Pro and Cons could be stated for these planes ?
June 14, 20241 yr I have all those planes that you mention. Every Black Square Product sold so far. I also have the FSW C414 Chancellor. Of all the above planes, it is the one with the most charm and personality. It is also has a top notch flight model and performance. Buy it, you won’t be disappointed. -B PS. The FSW Lear35 is an awesome plane and a hoot ta’ boot! Get it too if you can. Edited June 14, 20241 yr by btacon
June 14, 20241 yr My opinion is the C414 is much better than the other two you mention. The main differences are the sounds and flight model are superior. If you want to try a BlackSquare aircraft, I'd suggest one/both of the Dukes. Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
June 14, 20241 yr I have never used the black square Baron after I got the 414 and I love Barons Ron MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.
June 14, 20241 yr The 414 is very good. I prefer the dukes over it but I prefer the 414 over the baron. The dukes have a lot more systems.depth too. I'd say the 414 has a slight win over the dukes for interior textures. Both have superb sounds. The Baron and King Air use default exterior sounds except for a few extra turbocharged stuff - the interior sounds are all custom though and very good on all black square products | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 14, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, RichieFly said: My opinion is the C414 is much better than the other two you mention. The main differences are the sounds and flight model are superior. If you want to try a BlackSquare aircraft, I'd suggest one/both of the Dukes. One thing about the overhauled planes stated features I find very interesting is Working carbon monoxide detector Mathematically accurate VOR & ADF signal attenuation and noise, and remote compass gyro slavin Does the C414 have anything like this ?
June 14, 20241 yr One more vote for the C414. As far as twins go, I'd say it is a tossup between the the Piston Duke and the C414. Both are great. Bert
June 14, 20241 yr One more vote for the C414. As far as twins go, I'd say it is a tossup between the the Piston Duke and the C414. Both are great. 3 minutes ago, jfri said: One thing about the overhauled planes stated features I find very interesting is Working carbon monoxide detector Mathematically accurate VOR & ADF signal attenuation and noise, and remote compass gyro slavin Does the C414 have anything like this ? Maybe not, but it has a way more pilot friendly Garmin autopilot, which is more important to me. Edited June 14, 20241 yr by Bert Pieke Bert
June 14, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said: One more vote for the C414. As far as twins go, I'd say it is a tossup between the the Piston Duke and the C414. Both are great. Maybe not, but it has a w A w ?
June 15, 20241 yr Author 11 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: One more vote for the C414. As far as twins go, I'd say it is a tossup between the the Piston Duke and the C414. Both are great. If I understand you correctly you mean that the Piston Duke are better then my two mentioned overhaul planes and also about as good as the C414. Why the Piston Duke and not the turbine one ? And what makes the Piston Duke better than my suggested overhauled Baron and King Air ?
June 15, 20241 yr Author 11 hours ago, Bert Pieke said: One more vote for the C414. As far as twins go, I'd say it is a tossup between the the Piston Duke and the C414. Both are great. If I understand you correctly you mean that the Piston Duke are better then my two mentioned overhaul planes and also about as good as the C414. Why the Piston Duke and not the turbine one ? And what makes the Piston Duke better than my suggested overhauled Baron and King Air ? Edited June 15, 20241 yr by jfri Avsim Server Time out
June 15, 20241 yr Author 13 hours ago, btacon said: I have all those planes that you mention. Every Black Square Product sold so far. I also have the FSW C414 Chancellor. Of all the above planes, it is the one with the most charm and personality. It is also has a top notch flight model and performance. Buy it, you won’t be disappointed. In one review of the FSW C414 a glitch with elevator trim was mentioned. First no reaction at all then a sudden (too) big response. Do you recognise that ?
June 15, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, btacon said: I also have the FSW C414 Chancellor. Of all the above planes, it is the one with the most charm and personality. It is also has a top notch flight model and performance. Buy it, you won’t be disappointed. This!
June 15, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, jfri said: In one review of the FSW C414 a glitch with elevator trim was mentioned. First no reaction at all then a sudden (too) big response. Do you recognise that ? No. I was a day one “early access” buyer and put hundreds of hours in plane since. I’ve never experienced such an anomaly nor do I recall such a discussion on the FSW discord. There is always a lively discussion there and it might give you more comfort with the plane. Good luck and don’t forget the L-35 at checkout! 😇😇😇 -B
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