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[Fielder]

I haven't got any Dukes. Too expensive... 

I'm still waiting for the BF109 to go on sale

But finally nabbed the C414

[JetCat]

Well only in the Cessna 414 you will get all these cute and beyond awesome bunny-pillows 🙀

https://flightsim.to/file/36528/flysimware-cessna-414-chancellor-default-interior-design-enhancement

Was my best and favorite plane before the Duke series released!

Edited June 20 by JetCat

[jfri]

On 6/18/2024 at 1:31 AM, s0cks said:

 

I think you'll like the plane once you get the hang of her. I was kinda the same when I got it. Manual and checklist seemed lacking, but I slowly fell in love with the plane regardless. Very nice to fly.

I can't help but feel that this plane is overhyped. Not what I would suspect from a study level plane. If I knew what I know now I think I would have passed on it and instead get the black square piston duke

[s0cks]

On 6/23/2024 at 3:25 AM, jfri said:

I can't help but feel that this plane is overhyped. Not what I would suspect from a study level plane. If I knew what I know now I think I would have passed on it and instead get the black square piston duke

It's quite old now, there are a LOT of videos on it, so you should have known what you were getting into tbh. I have a few BSq planes and I actually prefer the C414. That said, everyone has different expectations and desires. I don't care too much about failures for example, and I really like planes that feel good to hand fly. I think the C414 for 50% off was a great purchase personally.

[Gulf76]

14 minutes ago, s0cks said:

It's quite old now, there are a LOT of videos on it, so you should have known what you were getting into tbh. I have a few BSq planes and I actually prefer the C414. That said, everyone has different expectations and desires. I don't care too much about failures for example, and I really like planes that feel good to hand fly. I think the C414 for 50% off was a great purchase personally.

I agree totally! I much prefer the 414 over the BS TBM 850 due to the flight model. BS makes great aircraft with systems fidelity, but when you hand-fly the 850, if you look down for more than a few seconds, the plane dips almost immediately and will rotate on the central axis. 

[Gazzareth]

On 6/22/2024 at 4:25 PM, jfri said:

I can't help but feel that this plane is overhyped. Not what I would suspect from a study level plane. If I knew what I know now I think I would have passed on it and instead get the black square piston duke

Funny, I've recently seen the same thing said of the Duke.

I wouldn't agree either were, both are absolutely superb. Perfect? No. But what is.. .. ..

G

[jfri]

3 hours ago, Gulf76 said:

I agree totally! I much prefer the 414 over the BS TBM 850 due to the flight model. BS makes great aircraft with systems fidelity, but when you hand-fly the 850, if you look down for more than a few seconds, the plane dips almost immediately and will rotate on the central axis. 

I just made a flight with the C414. My experience was that if you let go of the control the plane will soon start to drift in pitch and roll. I did not find it easier to handfly than other planes.

[Ron Lefebvre]

Did you trim the plane.

I have over 50 hours of flight time in the 414 and I have not found it roll or pitch excessively.

 

[s0cks]

Yeah, plane flies wonderfully for me. Trims nicely - well... as nicely as a non-A2A aircraft can 🙂

[jfri]

9 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Did you trim the plane.

I have over 50 hours of flight time in the 414 and I have not found it roll or pitch excessively.

 

Yes I tried to trim the plane and it was difficult

[avhpilot]

Is it me or is there something horribly wrong with the Manifold Pressure gauge needle in the C414 ?

Shouldn't it decrease when climbing? I can go up all the way to reach 40 inches at 28000 feet.

 

[ryanbatc]

16 minutes ago, avhpilot said:

Is it me or is there something horribly wrong with the Manifold Pressure gauge needle in the C414 ?

Shouldn't it decrease when climbing? I can go up all the way to reach 40 inches at 28000 feet.

 

It's turbocharged but it won't show 40 at FL280.  I think critical altitude is around F215 or so.  Do you have the latest update?

[btacon]

On 6/23/2024 at 5:51 PM, jfri said:

I just made a flight with the C414. My experience was that if you let go of the control the plane will soon start to drift in pitch and roll. I did not find it easier to handfly than other planes.

Just as an incorrectly or poorly trim’d plane would IRL.   I know as I too have been there and done that in my past.  Accurate trim is critical in any flying machine.

-B

Disclosure:  I have hundreds of hours in the beautiful classic C414 from FSW.  I have ALWAYS enjoyed hand flying the plane.

Edited 17 hours ago by btacon

[avhpilot]

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

It's turbocharged but it won't show 40 at FL280.  I think critical altitude is around F215 or so.  Do you have the latest update?

Version 4.5.0 is up to date according the content manager (purchased via Marketplace)

What I see is that during climb the needle will always stay at the same position. From what I understand it should slowly decrease meaning you have to add throttle bit by bit to compensate. That is what I am used to see in the A2A Constellation, the DC6 from PMSG. the JustFlight Piper Arrow 28 IV Turbo etc etc.

Any ideas? 

 

[tttocs]

53 minutes ago, avhpilot said:

What I see is that during climb the needle will always stay at the same position. From what I understand it should slowly decrease meaning you have to add throttle bit by bit to compensate. That is what I am used to see in the A2A Constellation, the DC6 from PMSG. the JustFlight Piper Arrow 28 IV Turbo etc etc.

If MP is rock solid throughout a climb, then no that's not exactly right though how much it should change is variable and in almost all cases should be relatively small up to the critical altitude.  Keep in mind that all turbo-charged piston engine aircraft differ in their flight characteristics for a variety of reasons.  For example, the Piper Turbo Arrow IV you mention (which I owned and flew IRL) came from the factory with a fixed wastegate, no intercooling and a relatively low critical altitude of around 12,000'.  What this means, among other things, is a lot more variation in MP with altitude, and especially so above 12,000', than you'll find in most other turbocharged planes.

 

Scott