I do think Jorg's mindset is exactly what's needed. This quote is from the msfsaddons interview that just posted this morning, and is why I think he's such a great person to head the team:

 

Jorg: The perception [that MSFS is for gamers] exists because our trailers appeal to a wide audience, which is intentional. Do I need to convince flight simmers that flight simming is cool? No – it’s their hobby. We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes, which is why we track wishlists and feedback closely. To make flight simming broader, we need to appeal to more people.

Some people say, “I don’t care about balloons and Zeppelins,” but some are afraid of airplanes, so we offer alternatives. We have many ultralights in Flight Sim 2024, which is how a lot of people get into flying. We want to cater to a broad audience, not just one group. I want to make sure that core simmers are happy, but many people who have never tried a flight sim see our trailers and decide to try it. That’s good for the hobby.

39 minutes ago, Dermot McClusky said:

We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes

and that's a major difference between this and the "other" simulator.

and that's why this simulator sold 15 million copies, and that's why this simulator can afford to spend hundreds of millions for R&D, attracts the most 3rd party developers, can afford the best talent, proceeds and improves at such phenomenal speed. and that is why this simulator will soon break the 20 million user sales barrier.

back to marketing lesson square one: "We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes."

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by turbomax

It's also the complete right attitude to have. Gatekeeping helps no one. 

1 hour ago, Dermot McClusky said:

I do think Jorg's mindset is exactly what's needed. This quote is from the msfsaddons interview that just posted this morning, and is why I think he's such a great person to head the team:

 

Jorg: The perception [that MSFS is for gamers] exists because our trailers appeal to a wide audience, which is intentional. Do I need to convince flight simmers that flight simming is cool? No – it’s their hobby. We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes, which is why we track wishlists and feedback closely. To make flight simming broader, we need to appeal to more people.

Some people say, “I don’t care about balloons and Zeppelins,” but some are afraid of airplanes, so we offer alternatives. We have many ultralights in Flight Sim 2024, which is how a lot of people get into flying. We want to cater to a broad audience, not just one group. I want to make sure that core simmers are happy, but many people who have never tried a flight sim see our trailers and decide to try it. That’s good for the hobby.

Yeah, Jörg knows what he's doing. I trust on him. Of course he fails, he's not perfect. But all in all, it's been an awesome cycle for flight simulation. He's the strategist we need for our hobby. 

1 hour ago, Dermot McClusky said:

I do think Jorg's mindset is exactly what's needed. This quote is from the msfsaddons interview that just posted this morning, and is why I think he's such a great person to head the team:

 

Jorg: The perception [that MSFS is for gamers] exists because our trailers appeal to a wide audience, which is intentional. Do I need to convince flight simmers that flight simming is cool? No – it’s their hobby. We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes, which is why we track wishlists and feedback closely. To make flight simming broader, we need to appeal to more people.

Some people say, “I don’t care about balloons and Zeppelins,” but some are afraid of airplanes, so we offer alternatives. We have many ultralights in Flight Sim 2024, which is how a lot of people get into flying. We want to cater to a broad audience, not just one group. I want to make sure that core simmers are happy, but many people who have never tried a flight sim see our trailers and decide to try it. That’s good for the hobby.

It never stops blowing my mind when people don't understand this.  They modulate their presentation for the audience.  At an Xbox showcase, they're going to try and make MSFS look like something a gamer or someone casually interested in aircraft might want to give a try.  Casting a broad net is what allows them to have 800 people working on the sim across 25 teams, AND it makes the hobby bigger at the same time lifting all of those third-party boats. That audience doesn't want to hear Seb going on about wake turbulence improvements.  The FSExpo audience does.

I think the whole "MSFS IS GAEM???" thing is mostly weaponized disingenuousness from people who don't want to be seen as bog-standard platform loyalist, so they try to dismiss the sim by category error instead.  And there's nothing a 50 year old with plastic pedals and a plastic yoke in a dining room chair likes less than having their entertainment called a... game *shudder*.

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by Scottoest

7 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Proof will definitely be in the pudding. We already know they're improving general flight dynamics physics for their CFD tech, and making it easier for devs to develop more precise aircraft geometry for FMs, etc: https://youtu.be/a6riRXgRsCU?t=1206 (I'm sure we'll get a deep dive in coming weeks/months on all what they're doing in the aerodynamics area, among others).

Re: gliders they did seem to have a focus on them even in this FS Expo presentation (starting here https://youtu.be/a6riRXgRsCU?t=4545) where they're partnering with Got Friends to bring more complex glider avionics and flight computers to the base sim and add the Stemme S12G, they're also striving to model all gliderports on earth.. so if they're doing all that in the glider space, one would think they'll also be improving thermals modelling and glider physics.

Re: heli physics, that was one area where they said they're using Andrey (Petrovich) Solomykin around areas such as governors, turbines, multi-rotor support, etc (in a past Q&A). Rotorcraft enthusiasts/experts like Helisimmer (Sergio) in reviewing the initial implementation of helicopter physics vs multiple other sims came away impressed: https://www.helisimmer.com/articles/best-helicopter-simulator-2023 (for flight dynamics he narrowed it down to the best three sims of which MSFS was one, and also said it's not far apart from the best).

Re: ground handling, that has been revamped and properly modelled in MSFS 2024, and partially backported to MSFS 2020 SU15.. at least in MSFS 2020 aircraft devs need to actually take advantage of the new FM parameters, which devs like iniBuilds have done in their A300 as they showed recently here: https://youtu.be/N4cxNccH66U?t=1318 
 

Kudos to you for providing URLs.  I'm partial to reading footnotes (and am guessing lateral thinkers love those too). 🙂

My candidates are Bruce Artwick of course. He was like many of us, a dev who liked aviation and provided a proof of concept that many enthusiasts appreciated.

Second would be Bill Gates who had the vision and facility to bring Flight Simulation to his new Windows platform and the rest of the world.

Top honors must go to Jorg who pulled Flight Simulation out of the ditch and singlehandedly had to deal with corporations and new tech proposals that only he could envision.  It is mind boggling to think of all the hurdles he had to overcome but succeeded at only due to his passion for the hobby.  Vision -  Jorg has it in spades.

Ten years from now, Jorg Neumann will be known as the father of Flight Simulation.

Congrats Jorg.  I wish I could be you.

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Edited June 24, 20241 yr by Sky_Pilot071

2 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Congrats Jorg.  I wish I could be you.

and you would enjoy a great bonus for achieving $ 1.000.000.000 in sales. 🤣

2 hours ago, ca_metal said:

Yeah, Jörg knows what he's doing. I trust on him. Of course he fails, he's not perfect. But all in all, it's been an awesome cycle for flight simulation. He's the strategist we need for our hobby. 

I think Jörg was the kind of outsider that the genre needed.

I'll add my congratulations to Jorg for being the catalyst for Flight Simulators revival. That morning back in 2019 when I saw some article or mention of Flight Simulator I was floored and thought maybe it was a joke or something. Obviously it wasn't and the result has been an amazing ride; and now we're on the cusp of another advancement of the FS franchise.

Thanks Jorg, and also to Seb and everyone else involved in the rejuvenation of Flight Simulator! 

On 6/23/2024 at 6:03 AM, Wildblue said:

Personally i think Bill Gates was a silent behind-the-scenes instigator for msfs2020. It's been said before, Gates loved flightsimulator and stimulated it.

That's the rumor anyways. My intuition says there something more sinister to the amount of money they are poring into a FS. I am thinking of drones and AI, which will not end well if in the wrong hands. Karma is real so they have to project their plans (movies, etc...) the choice is yours sort of, think Terminator as an example. If you know his family history you will know what I am talking about. And he is still pulling strings at MS according to the MSM.