20 minutes ago, MarcG said:

My issue is they've been trying to "fix" live weather since they broke it with SU7....2 1/2 years ago, but that conversations been done to death which leads me to expect nothing much has changed so many expectations are very low. Granted they can't be experts in every area of gaming, just pains me that what we had we lost and we've still not got it back.

That's fair, but most issues introduced with SU7 were fixed. I remember it was a mess at the beggining (not sure if it was because of the servers). One of the things not fixed, because it wasn't really a bug, was the METAR weather ring. I still believe they should have stayed with the meteoblue forecast prediction system, instead of using METAR based weather for the airport areas, but that's just me. 

Out of curiosity, what issues introduced in SU7 weren't fixed? I know there's a thread, and most issues were fixed AFAIK.

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by ca_metal

This interview also confirmed the charts and such will be free with the sim.

25 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Vasco: What about ATC?
Seb: Can’t say anything right now but we will in the future.

I'm guessing it's still heavily WIP.

Maybe one of the unannounced 10 partners is working on it?

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

24 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Vasco: Jorg, we continue to hear from some people in the community that you are more focused on gamers than hardcore simmers. Is this true, and why do you think there is still this perception in some in the community?
Jorg: The perception exists because our trailers appeal to a wide audience, which is intentional. Do I need to convince flight simmers that flight simming is cool? No – it’s their hobby. We need to ensure we fulfill their wishes, which is why we track wishlists and feedback closely. To make flight simming broader, we need to appeal to more people.

This should be bookmarked and repeated every time someone complains about something they perceive is a give to “gamers” or “the Xbox crowd”, especially if it’s some entirely optional content like Dune, Halo etc. 

25 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

hopefully Helisimmer or others get more time than 30 mins with Jorg/Seb.

A very reliable source told me Helisimmer talked to Seb and Jorg "all night" lol

12 minutes ago, Bdub22 said:

Jorg said performance will be same OR better. I’d imagine they’re finding ways to optimize 2024 much more than 2020, especially since they’ve changed so much under the hood. 

The better the performance will be in 2024, the larger their customer base will become in 2024, i.e. they will sell more copies of FS.

Just now, Tuskin38 said:

I'm guessing it's still heavily WIP.

Maybe one of the unannounced 10 partners is working on it.

Yup, what I took away from that is something is definitely coming for ATC 🙂 (hopefully the same for AI traffic too).
 

3 minutes ago, Krakin said:

A very reliable source told me Helisimmer talked to Seb and Jorg "all night" lol

By hellisimmer you mean Sérgio? Sérgio is always on point, he's always providing insights for the team. Most people don't know, but is probably the guy responsible for the implementation of the VR before release. Also, a lot of the improvements related to helicopters within the years.

50 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

I still believe they should have stayed with the meteoblue forecast predition system, instead of using METAR based weather for the airport areas, but that's just me.

Yup the only way they can get back to pre-SU7 weather is if they offer live weather in two modes for user to choose (with METAR blending, or pure global like pre-SU7). Unless of course they're somehow able to improve their algorithms that blend METAR with global weather data (much easier said than done). At least their core weather engine is being improved with more cloud types, improved clouds definition, and of course the new atmospherics engine.

I'm just curious that they went out of their way to mention improved storms, simulation of super cells and tornadoes, etc last year but nothing on those this year (maybe those are only doable in manual weather but the data to pick up on those for live weather isn't there currently).  In any case, it feels like they have much more to say about weather but not yet, so let's see.
 

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by lwt1971

4 minutes ago, Krakin said:

A very reliable source told me Helisimmer talked to Seb and Jorg "all night" lol

he should have them very drunk, then rain them with questions to spill the beans 😁

3 minutes ago, penta_a said:

he should have them very drunk, then rain them with questions to spill the beans 😁

Oh trust me, they had a lot of fun together. I've seen the photos lol. They get along really well.

Now as for Jorg dodging the ATC question, I'm gonna make another bold prediction. They've been hard at work making something they feel is going to blow our minds and don't want to speak a word of it till it gets its own feature discovery video for maximum effect. It will be AI controlled, of course.

Now for my wacked out, 1% chance of happening prediction, MS is gonna employ people to do full time ATC for us, round the clock haha.

Take the first prediction seriously, laugh with me at the second one lol

22 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Oh trust me, they had a lot of fun together. I've seen the photos lol. They get along really well.

Now as for Jorg dodging the ATC question, I'm gonna make another bold prediction. They've been hard at work making something they feel is going to blow our minds and don't want to speak a word of it till it gets its own feature discovery video for maximum effect. It will be AI controlled, of course.

Now for my wacked out, 1% chance of happening prediction, MS is gonna employ people to do full time ATC for us, round the clock haha.

Take the first prediction seriously, laugh with me at the second one lol

Yeah, I would pay attention to the copilot+ new features (real-time translations, real-time help etc), it would nicely fit into flight simulation, including ATC features. Also, MSFS was shown there when they presented the feature (it was a help tool, not ATC).

About the second part🤣... I would suggest something not so crazy. Partnering with IVAO or VATSIM, to have this feature running flawlessly in-sim. VATSIM/IVAO would take care of the trainning and MS would take care of the infrastructure to run it. I bet more pilots and controllers would be interested on joining it. I think they might have tried before, but not a priority so far.

55 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

That's fair, but most issues introduced with SU7 were fixed. I remember it was a mess at the beggining (not sure if it was because of the servers). One of the things not fixed, because it wasn't really a bug, was the METAR weather ring. I still believe they should have stayed with the meteoblue forecast prediction system, instead of using METAR based weather for the airport areas, but that's just me. 

Out of curiosity, what issues introduced in SU7 weren't fixed? I know there's a thread, and most issues were fixed AFAIK.

Like I said this conversations been done to death so I'm not gonna regurgitate it all again 😄 happy to focus on the positives from this weekend, the negatives can wait for release day 👍

51 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Yup the only way they can get back to pre-SU7 weather is if they offer live weather in two modes for user to choose (with METAR blending, or pure global like pre-SU7). Unless of course they're somehow able to improve their algorithms that blend METAR with global weather data (much easier said than done). At least their core weather engine is being improved with more cloud types, improved clouds definition, and of course the new atmospherics engine.

I'm just curious that they went out of their way to mention improved storms, simulation of super cells and tornadoes, etc last year but nothing on those this year (maybe those are only doable in manual weather but the data to pick up on those for live weather isn't there currently).  In any case, it feels like they have much more to say about weather but not yet, so let's see.
 

The overall impact of weather has been suffering since SU5/7. Many debates have been had, but let me summarize. When the 3D weather data dictates a weather that is reported as BKN015 that means that VFR is impossible and illegal, As the weather in MSFS looks today, and nothing indicates it will be different in 2024, aspiring pilots will continue to be able to ignore the limitations from bad weather.

Performance same as or better than 2020, requirements not changing, great if they can actually achieve that.