4 minutes ago, Fielder said:

I don't understand. When I click return to main menu, it takes roughly 20 to 30 seconds. This was true 3 years ago, today, and all the times in between. Except once in a great while when some weirdness was going on. I never see times like 90 seconds . By the way it takes about 7 minutes for MSFS to load for me which is slow. But going back to main menu is a snap.

Might that be for you at a complex terminal in a top end airliner?  This is of course after a complex flight using GSX and SLC for what it's worth.  It's always been pretty slow here, this phase of exiting to the main menu.   If I'm in a simple flight, in a lesser aircraft into a less complex arrival airport it will be much quicker.  And same here for MSFS loading which takes a little less than 7 min.

2 hours ago, Cognita said:

I kill the sim all the time when I complete my flight; In fact, I think I rarely go back to the Main Menu unless I am going to do another flight right away. It has never caused a problem for me; the next time I launch the sim it proceeds normally.

I do hope 2024 addresses the exceptionally long loading and shut-down times, it is a bit of a weakness in the current sim.

Thanks Dan that sounds very hopeful I think I will give it a try.  Before I do though is it possible to save a copy of my controller settings?  I'm about overdue to reclone this drive so maybe I'll do that now.  Cheers

There are negative effects if you use an airplane with state preservation, such as the Blackbird Cessna 310R, A2A Comanche and so on. Killing MSFS may make you lose the state in which you left the plane. As a consequence, the plane will start in a default state the next time you load it, not with all buttons etc in the state where you left it. I cannot remember the details, but I recall that one of the airplane manuals explicitly states that you should always return to the main menu before shutting down MSFS.

Just to be on the Safe side (no pun intended re:"Safe Mode")...Back to the Main Menu...4 clicks total...maybe 2 minutes at most...no big deal.🙂

18 minutes ago, Noel said:

Might that be for you at a complex terminal in a top end airliner?  This is of course after a complex flight using GSX and SLC for what it's worth.  It's always been pretty slow here, this phase of exiting to the main menu.   If I'm in a simple flight, in a lesser aircraft into a less complex arrival airport it will be much quicker.  And same here for MSFS loading which takes a little less than 7 min.

I'm mainly in GA flights. And I don't have multiplayer on. And the AI traffic sliders are way to the left. I don't use GSX.

Something not fun. Boot up MSFS and go for a cup of coffee. Come back 10 minutes later and you are at the Safe Mode / Normal mode choice screen. DOH !!

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

...  depending  on how complex the code for MSFS is.

Software today is already, very, very complex. And something like MSFS is very complex.  And with complex software, not every permutation has been tested, because it's so complex. Even if Microsoft... team would still miss out on a log of bugs, because of how complex MSFS is.

I guess what you're saying is, it's complex. 🤭

 

For the record, the time taken to return to main menu is a fraction of the startup time, so I feel in no hurry to wait.

Cops might come knocking

Waiting times for MSFS2024. Thrill of victory, agony of defeat, or same ol' same ol'...

I always return to the main menu after aircraft shut-down, but I haven't been running any airliners for a while and I don't use any traffic injectors or other programs at this time.  The most advanced aircraft I've been flying recently is the Longitude.

Return to the Main Menu averages around 10-15 seconds - exit from MSFS maybe another 5 seconds?  I'll time it next time to be sure.

This is the type of thing that people do that they don't mention when they are having problems with flight simulator. Only Microsoft/Asobo developer folks could tell you what is going on with the program when you exit a flight and go back to the main screen. It is obviously doing something, I doubt it is just a timer that is intended to annoy the user. It is important enough that the game sets a flag when the shutdown is completed properly, hence the 'safe mode' prompt the next time if not done right. If you are not shutting down the program properly, you kind of lose the right to legitimately complain if the game goes wonky on you.

People always wonder why there are some that seem to have constant problems with the game while others rarely ever do. The fly on the wall sees them shutting the computer off in the middle of a flight because they have to go somewhere and don't want to wait for the shut down. The fly never talks though.

Eliminating bugs...

 

Like a few others have mentioned, it takes a fraction of the time to return to the main menu when compared to loading the simulator, so I always exit through the main menu.

There are always ways of doing things faster, more easily and soforth, but for me, my experience over the years with any iteration of FS, is to give it as few opportunities as possible to fall over. So I always return to the main menu and choose quit to desktop, even though it may seem unnecessary.

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by Rocky_53

I close first the extra programs (AI / ATC / Realturb / MF) then exit to the main menu and quit to desktop.
The 30 seconds extra don't bother me after a flight of 2+ hours.

That method ensures anyway that all stuff in the background had a chance to update any settings...

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by virtualstuff