Okay finally got it to install. I shutdown every program I could in Windows and finally it installed. I have hardly had any issues installing updates before this so something either changed with the programs I use, or a new conflict has arisen somewhere. No idea but at least it installed. 

17 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I shutdown every program I could in Windows and finally it installed.

As you must know by now:  nearly every install program from every piece of software in ever tells you to shut down other programs that are live during the install, so not much new here.  But I understand your point often we can get away with it.

I'm predicting more bandwidth problems (MS2024) with server issues even more than MSFS 2020. Ladies and Gentlemen get them internet plans juiced up even more rather than saving HD space. I have 1G and still have internet connection problems.

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by JBDB-MD80

29 minutes ago, RobJC said:

Okay finally got it to install. I shutdown every program I could in Windows and finally it installed. I have hardly had any issues installing updates before this so something either changed with the programs I use, or a new conflict has arisen somewhere. No idea but at least it installed. 

Quote from your original post: "I really do not understand why Asobo / MS cannot include a decent installation program with this project. It really does appear to be unique to MSFS, as none of the other programs I use have this problem." Yet your current post appears to completely contradict what you said earlier. I'm confused.

1 hour ago, cobalt said:

Quote from your original post: "I really do not understand why Asobo / MS cannot include a decent installation program with this project. It really does appear to be unique to MSFS, as none of the other programs I use have this problem." Yet your current post appears to completely contradict what you said earlier. I'm confused.

Not sure where your confusion comes from. The installation approach has been a disaster from day one. It is overly sensitive to a user’s environment, and is about as brittle as they come. I haven’t installed any new applications, yet this time MSFS cannot install correctly. It just stayed for over an hour on one file. No message explaining the issue. No timeout. It just sits there literally stuck and it will stay that way for hours or days. Very poorly designed and implemented. MSFS is groundbreaking but this installation program is not good. 

The third billy goat said gruffly, "I am the greatest of all time"!

"Eat your grass", said the other goats.

 

8 hours ago, Noel said:

As you must know by now:  nearly every install program from every piece of software in ever tells you to shut down other programs that are live during the install, so not much new here.  But I understand your point often we can get away with it.

To be fair, I have (to the best of my knowledge) never shut down any other software when I have installed anything over the years.

12 hours ago, RobJC said:

Not sure where your confusion comes from. The installation approach has been a disaster from day one. It is overly sensitive to a user’s environment, and is about as brittle as they come. I haven’t installed any new applications, yet this time MSFS cannot install correctly. It just stayed for over an hour on one file. No message explaining the issue. No timeout. It just sits there literally stuck and it will stay that way for hours or days. Very poorly designed and implemented. MSFS is groundbreaking but this installation program is not good. 

My confusion comes from the fact that in your original post you describe a problem installing the latest UK update and go on to say that there is a problem with installing updates generally, yet in a later post reporting that once you removed some other programs from your computer, you were able to successfully install the UK, and then said that you had "not had any problem installing updates before". Isn't this a contradiction?

Now I am further confused, as you are now talking about installation of MSFS itself. It cannot be the case that there is a fundamental problem with the MSFS installation program, since (based on extensive reporting in this forum) it seems to work fine for most people if they follow instructions properly. I have done it twice with no issues. Sorry you are experiencing difficulties, but they must be of local origin.

 

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3 minutes ago, cobalt said:

My confusion comes from the fact that in your original post you describe a problem installing the latest UK update, yet in a later post reporting that it once you removed some other programs from your computer, you were able to successfully install it, and then said that you had "not had any problem installing updates before". Isn't this a contradiction?

Now I am further confused, as you are now talking about installation of MSFS itself. It cannot be the case that there is a fundamental problem with the MSFS installation program, since (based on extensive reporting in this forum) it seems to work fine for most people if they follow instructions properly. I have done it twice with no issues. Sorry you are experiencing difficulties, but they must be of local origin.

 

No confusion. First, I did have troubles installing the latest update. Second, no new programs had been added to my PC in many months. And lastly, I was able to install previous updates without issues. So absolutely no contradiction that I can see. Why MSFS was unable to install this time while being fine before is not a question I can answer. A conflict occurred somewhere, either by an application I already had being updated or MSFS introducing a new conflict with one of these programs. In any case, I received no error message and the program appeared to be willing to just sit there for hours, so that is pretty poor. Just search this forum for many many threads created by people having install issues. I have done a ton of updates to MSFS since it was released 4 years ago, and this was the first update that really bit me. 

Great flight simulator, but the install routine has created a lot of headaches for users over the years. Just glad I got it sorted. In the future I will kill anything running just in case. 

6 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

To be fair, I have (to the best of my knowledge) never shut down any other software when I have installed anything over the years.

Right and 99.9% of the time (or some other %) all goes well, but still often the admonition when installing a new program is to shut down active programs and perhaps that is what the admonition is for, that 0.1% of the time something goes awry as in the OP's case.  

15 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

I'm predicting more bandwidth problems (MS2024) with server issues even more than MSFS 2020. Ladies and Gentlemen get them internet plans juiced up even more rather than saving HD space. I have 1G and still have internet connection problems.

That has more to do with routing of your data and geographical position, not speed or quantity of data. Hence why people have such success with VPNs in solving speed and connection issues.

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by Sethos

On 8/12/2024 at 11:23 PM, RobJC said:

I really do not understand why Asobo / MS cannot include a decent installation program with this project.

 

3 hours ago, RobJC said:

I have done a ton of updates to MSFS since it was released 4 years ago, and this was the first update that really bit me. 

Somewhat contradictory statements ....

16 hours ago, Fielder said:

"Eat your grass", said the other goats.

I'll trust you heard that right....

2 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

 

Somewhat contradictory statements ....

So if I say that GM should build better cars because my engine blew up, it would be contradictory since other people have been reporting blown engines but mine had made it 25000 miles before it blew up? lol

4 hours ago, RobJC said:

So if I say that GM should build better cars because my engine blew up, it would be contradictory since other people have been reporting blown engines but mine had made it 25000 miles before it blew up? lol

Agreed. As in you can critique the DESIGN of something even if it doesn't affect you (yet). Or only occasionally.