33 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

CPU speed & vRam are more important for flightsims, so 32gig is good enough.

That’s what I’m thinking as well. I’ve got 2x16 and IIRC MSFS rarely uses more than 8. I’ve overclocked the RAM and optimized the timings.

@fppilot Read this. Or at least scan it from that point and just prior.

 

Maybe start here instead. Either way, this thread has a bunch of great info.

Edited August 24, 20241 yr by V1ROTA7E

I am going with 64GB. The cost increment is small vs the total system cost.  The threads referenced here are overall mixed, but the testimonials from those whose stated with use they went 64GB outweigh those who say no without mention of using 64GB.  Some others fall in the middle on those counts. At the end of the day the reality is your mileage may vary, and that is clearly understood here.

Perhaps it will help with photo and graphics editing as well.  I deal with some very hi-res photography.

Moderators, you may close this topic as solved at your discretion.  I see no point in further opinions for my benefit.

Edited August 24, 20241 yr by fppilot

I went with 64gb on mine. Why? Because all my life I’ve loved excesses.

Do I need it? Nop, but I love to see excessive specs

I have 64gb on board but i don`t think it does much, 32gb is perfectly fine and also enough.

I work a lot with Photoshop so I made my PC with 64gb to be on the safe side..

cheers 😉

2 hours ago, pmplayer said:

I work a lot with Photoshop so I made my PC with 64gb to be on the safe side..

 

Me also.  Am heavy Photoshop user so factored into my decision.

I avoid 64GB because we're just not there where it makes that much sense in the sim / gaming sphere and that much RAM, especially if there's 4 sticks, just increase load on the memory controller, increases RAM related issues and also makes it harder to get RAM overclocks stable. Much easier with memory controller overhead to tighten the timings even further beyond EXPO-values.

I'm also a heavy Photoshop user. 32GB is more than enough. 

6 minutes ago, Sethos said:

I avoid 64GB because we're just not there where it makes that much sense in the sim / gaming sphere and that much RAM, especially if there's 4 sticks, just increase load on the memory controller, increases RAM related issues and also makes it harder to get RAM overclocks stable. Much easier with memory controller overhead to tighten the timings even further beyond EXPO-values.

Took advantage of a bundle offer (MOB, CPU, RAM).  Included 64GB, (2) 32GB sticks.  Only putting one in to start.  Other will be a spare, but at the ready in case demands increase from either the sim or Photoshop.

You'll BE able to run 2020 and 2024 at the same time, same aircraft, same scenery área, and compare 🤪

17 hours ago, fppilot said:

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Perhaps it will help with photo and graphics editing as well.  I deal with some very hi-res photography.

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Yes, I often use more than 50 Gb with my video editor, 8k (360°) shots.
Also, often more than 40 Gb ram with Topaz Photo AI.
64 Gb is not that expensive.

-B

23 hours ago, fppilot said:

It is planned as a 5-year system and in the past my record is that I underbuilt.  Lessons learned.  Still considering.  The extra $105 is literally insignificant since I am putting a $1,000+ GPU in the system.  😏  In my previous system with all the contents, the RAM was not easy to access.  Much better case and layout this time.  Vertical GPU mount!

You've def talked yourself into it, and I maintain if it's as you say for MSFS and a few peripheral addons you'll never need any ram over 32Gb and typical now with maxed out everything is around half of the 32Gb at the most complex airports and planes.  If you're not planning on at least RTX4090 I'd strongly suggest you do not only for the 24Gb of the kind of ram you want to be able to exploit but its raw power is substantially greater than its Nvidia runner up GPU and easily affords render scale values of 160 which definitely sharpens IQ and was a game changer here.  I do not like DLSS Frame Generation but this GPU allows me to run ultra smooth at we'll call it sufficient frame rate of 45.  If they improve some elements affecting image quality I will definitely reconsider.  So yes, for a 5yr build max out the GPU for MSFS.  With MSFS 2024 will have better utilization of your CPU which makes the GPU's performance that much more relevant.

4 hours ago, Noel said:

You've def talked yourself into it,

Did you read the my most previous post?

15 hours ago, fppilot said:

Took advantage of a bundle offer (MOB, CPU, RAM).  Included 64GB, (2) 32GB sticks.  Only putting one in to start.  Other will be a spare, but at the ready in case demands increase from either the sim or Photoshop.

I read that "With the introduction of DDR5, each DDR5 DIMM has two independent sub-channels" (Wikipedia). But I also read that this is a bit misleading, because each stick actually splits a single 64-bit channel into 2 x 32-bit channels - so you still need 2 physical sticks to get the most out of the kit (4 x 32-bit channels ~= 2 x 64-bit channels = 100% use of 128-bit bus on the motherboard). Link here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34801853

How is this working for you? Is it true that we no longer need two sticks of RAM to get best performance? In your shoes, I would want to test it carefully before "sacrificing" the use of a second DIMM 🙂 .
 

Edited August 25, 20241 yr by tfm