Upgrade to 14700k worth it?

[mobiel]

Hello folks,

I have a question about a CPU upgrade. I currently have an I9-12900F and am no longer satisfied with the performance. I am getting only stable at around 30 fps in msfs with airport addon and a bit of traffic. My thought is to upgrade to a 14700k, which has a faster base clock and would be overclockable.
How do you see it, would it be worth it? As a GPU I have a 3080Ti and 32gb ram.

Thanks

[speedyTC]

As things stand now (the Intel mess) I'd suggest "no".

For the time being, drop some of your settings in MSFS, try MSFS AutoFPS and wait for the new generation of Ultras to make an appearance (if you are a Team Blue player).

Cheers!

[mobiel]

I‘m still using AutoFPS and droped some settings.

[somiller]

13 hours ago, mobiel said:

Hello folks,

I have a question about a CPU upgrade. I currently have an I9-12900F and am no longer satisfied with the performance. I am getting only stable at around 30 fps in msfs with airport addon and a bit of traffic. My thought is to upgrade to a 14700k, which has a faster base clock and would be overclockable.
How do you see it, would it be worth it? As a GPU I have a 3080Ti and 32gb ram.

Thanks

no

[Jim Harnes]

"As things stand now (the Intel mess) I'd suggest "no"."

With the new bios updates and extended warranty that may be a bit short sighted.  The 14700K is perhaps the best upgrade path now available for Intel users.  It's reviewed as providing the most "bank for the buck" and approaches the 14900K in gaming.

 

[VeryBumpy]

Not worth the small gains you might get. Instead  try using Lossless Scaling frame gen and wait for Fs2024's optimizations.

[mobiel]

Thanks 

[CO2Neutral]

 

I wouldn't go with Intel right now.  The microcode update drops 14900K performance by 6% as they reduce voltage and that prevents higher frequency on boost.  Also, Intel indicated the oxidation issues was only from specific batches of CPUs and has been fixed, but Intel have NOT provided any skews/serials for those that were contaminated ... begs the question how can Intel have fixed a contamination issue but don't know what batches were contaminated? 

On the Intel forums I asked if I want to buy a new 13/14th gen CPU how will I know if it's not subject to oxidation issue?  I got crickets, no response at all, nothing.  I'm sure Intel will bounce back next year, but for now, it's a NO buy.

If you're looking for better performance, suggest going with AMD 7900X3D or wait for AMD 9000X3D variants with X870E chipset later this year.

Edited September 6, 2024 by CO2Neutral

[Culley4246]

I am using a 14700k and i haven't had any of the issues people are talking about. I have mine undervolted and keep a 5.7 ghz all core, keeping benchmarks under 85c. I have never seen my cpu go over 60c under any game or sim i have played. I think this voltage issue can be serious, but if you know what you are doing, you will be fine. I bought mine from amazon for 329.00 USD . Thats a good deal. the socket 1700 also has future intel cpu's without ecores, called bartlett lake with 10-12 p cores. 

[Luke]

56 minutes ago, Culley4246 said:

I am using a 14700k and i haven't had any of the issues people are talking about.

You won't, until one day you do. Then it's too late.

56 minutes ago, Culley4246 said:

I have never seen my cpu go over 60c under any game or sim i have played. I think this voltage issue can be serious, but if you know what you are doing, you will be fine.

Affected CPUs are getting excessive transient voltage spikes, enough to damage the chip but not cause noticeable heating.

I agree that if you know what you are doing you will be fine, but some of the world's smartest hardware engineers made a mistake. Are you smarter than they are?

Cheers

[sonny147]

the 9900x and 9950x need to be on that list now , i popped in a 9900x today going from a 7800x3d at 4k iam blown away with the overall snappyness of the sim and my system , very pleased 

[VeryBumpy]

Need to see 9900x FS2020 figures to compare.

[CO2Neutral]

Recommend waiting for the X870E chipset motherboards before testing out AMD 9000 series CPUs … and of course make sure one is running the latest Win11 update to fix the Microsoft AMD handicap.

[CO2Neutral]

9950X3D with both CCDs having 3D Cache ... now that will be interesting!  Add X870E chipset ... and then add a nVidia 5090 32GB ... heck maybe we can actually sustain 60 FPS everywhere in MSFS or P3D regardless of add-on content used?? 

[David Roch]

On 9/30/2024 at 8:00 PM, sonny147 said:

the 9900x and 9950x need to be on that list now , i popped in a 9900x today going from a 7800x3d at 4k iam blown away with the overall snappyness of the sim and my system , very pleased 

Very, very pleased with the 9950x and the X870E mobo, coming from a 5950x on a X570 platform.
The average increase on MSFS is around 180%.