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Does anyone else have the problem motivating yourself to fly in MSFS 2020 right now? It is not the (still great) sim itself, but I like to have a little purpose around what I am doing. Flying for a VA; running an airline in OnAir, FSEconomy, or some other economic simulation; setting up GSX for an airplane; and son on. With what I have seen about MSFS 2024, I could imagine that any of these activities will soon get a massive upgrade or will be replaced by something in MSFS 2024. 

For me personally, these thoughts somehow make me second-guessing any flight I am about to start. Is that still worthwhile, or will this activity be obsolete by the end of the month. The sad consequence is that I am currently hardly flying. Not good.

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  • i certainly wont be diving into 2024 until all my major players are updated and running ok , it may take some time but have been here before more than once !😉

  • No. I'm not very optimistic about 2024 version to work perfectly right from Nov. 19th. Then, wait for A2A, Fenix, or whatever addon you are using, will take it couple of months. Why should be har

  • I'm kinda 2020'd out myself (after tasting the tech alpha it's night and day difference).  I'll probably still fly it here and there over the next 2.5 weeks. Admittedly I don't have as much time to us

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I'm not very optimistic about 2024 version to work perfectly right from Nov. 19th. Then, wait for A2A, Fenix, or whatever addon you are using, will take it couple of months. Why should be hard to enjoy MSFS 2020? I still fly in XP11, take that as a reference. 🙂

Also, not heard great things about MSFS 2024 career mode, it's kinda underwhelming. 

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i certainly wont be diving into 2024 until all my major players are updated and running ok , it may take some time but have been here before more than once !😉

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12 minutes ago, qqwertz said:

Does anyone else have the problem motivating yourself to fly in MSFS 2020 right now?

I think I know what you mean; I have not flown much on the past week, partially as I am swamped with work right now but also because I am ready for 2024! I am not planning to wait at all for current products to move over, I will move on day 1 and just begin fresh with the default aircraft, so 2020 is winding down for me and I am excited for what lies ahead.

MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.

19 minutes ago, qqwertz said:

Does anyone else have the problem motivating yourself to fly in MSFS 2020 right now? It is not the (still great) sim itself, but I like to have a little purpose around what I am doing. Flying for a VA; running an airline in OnAir, FSEconomy, or some other economic simulation; setting up GSX for an airplane; and son on. With what I have seen about MSFS 2024, I could imagine that any of these activities will soon get a massive upgrade or will be replaced by something in MSFS 2024. 

For me personally, these thoughts somehow make me second-guessing any flight I am about to start. Is that still worthwhile, or will this activity be obsolete by the end of the month. The sad consequence is that I am currently hardly flying. Not good.

Peter

That's a shame. I am still flying happily in the MSFS2020 world and enjoying it. I am almost sad that I did not manage to discover every region and airport in MSFS2020, haven't learned to fly helicopters and payed way too little attention to gliders.

Flew a couple of flights this weekend. Part 41 and 42 of my USA trip and a trip in New Zealand. After flying the JF Fokker 28 for a while I am now back to the A2A Piper Comanche. As a challenge I chose a used state, so some of my engine parts need to be replaced but I think it can wait a few more flights. I did change the oil though, because when I checked it during the walkaround it was kinda nasty. Yuck!

As for sense of purpose: I use Neofly but perhaps the career mode in MSFS2024 might be a nice change.

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I'm kinda 2020'd out myself (after tasting the tech alpha it's night and day difference).  I'll probably still fly it here and there over the next 2.5 weeks. Admittedly I don't have as much time to use the PC these days with family/house chores.

But I do plan to switch to 2024 like 95% of the time (vs other sims) once it's available.

But this post reminds me I need to gather up some of my favorite 2020 screenshots and make a Goodbye post over at the screenshot forum.

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I am, and will be, flying FS20 right up until FS24 is released.

Once FS24 is out, there'll be plenty of new default aircraft to explore while the various developers do what ever updating is required. I hope the JF Vulcan, PMDG DC-6 and Flying Iron's collection will be quickly available, but the C-17 and A400M will keep me happy till then. Really looking forward to the 19th.

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I realize only now what I was looking for: inspiration. Some great suggestions here, thanks for posting it 🙂

I suffer from over abundance mentality...simply too many awesome VR titles to enjoy and mod.
Pretty satisfied with my MSFS 2020 build for now, I'll do a quick flight every now and then when I get the urge.

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I think 2024 is going to be very buggy out of the gate, so I don’t plan on getting rid of 2020 anytime soon. I am diving into the A380, and that should keep me busy while they sort the issues out. For those waiting around for 2024 to launch, I suspect many won’t be too happy when 2024 launches. Best not to check out on 2020 just yet imo. 

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I have been flying FS2020 exclusively for my IFR training IRL in the past six months. So far I logged nearly 100 IFR hours on MSFS 2020. That's like $15K for real flights! I probably earned back the money I spent on whole flightsim PC/gear three times over... Of course, I can't put these hours into my logbook, but those are very effective hours for IFR training tremendously helpful. 

I'm longing for the days that I'll be back to VR to enjoy VFR flights, for that, FS2024 is coming out just about the right time. 

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Oct to May are my flight simming months as I live in the North East USA so its something to do when its cold outside. I use OnAir for creating a destination to fly to. I treat every flight as if it was a real flight and it is to keep the rust off for when I recreationally fly IRL. The big thing to watch out for is burn out and or forcing a flight to happen. On a whole, we simmers have really gotten lucky with addon developers making all kinds of study level aircraft that can make each flight something that could turn into a great emergency practice flight. That and having a sim that no longer crashes when we are short final bc it was a 32bit platform.

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Blagh. Was flying several times today with Cpt Piett and was flying several times after that. Had a great time.

No reason to stop flying in 2020 because 2024 will be out soon.

If anything, I will be waiting a few months until I notice all my favorite addons are incorporated or allowed into the new sim either free, or with a small upgrade fee. And I do mean small. Especially, if their product was released within the last year, still has bugs and has "unfinished" things left to do.

2024 will likely be buggy and I don't feel like flying mostly default planes until we truly see other addons have no issues in the new sim.

As for the career stuff, yeah.....that looks cool and a lot of fun. I am looking forward to that. But a completely revamped sim? Nah. 2024 is not that.

 

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Like a few of you, my taste of 2024 has made me wish for it back. Bare bones alpha and all, lol. 

I've been using the time to create a template for my own custom checklists for the aircraft I want to fly the most. 

Also trying to familiarize myself with the airbus line so that I can operate it without using the 'auto'check list feature. Will do the same for the 737-800 (I don't own any of the others and plan to wait and see what they charge/not charge for an upgrade). Smaller jets are on my radar as are some of the GA aircraft.

I think the main thing I really liked, and that stood out, was how easy it was to trim the aircraft and adjust power for stright and level flight. Trim feels 'gummy' in 2020, can't think of a better way to describe it. Almost like its a rubber band and far to fiddly. Probably just a me thing though lol.

Back on topic, yes I'm still using it but its a slog and I am really looking for to the 19th!

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Agree with you Lotharen. Trim in MSFS 2020 has been unrealistically sensitive from day 1.  In most aircraft I fly, mainly GA, nigh on impossible to achieve stable flight for any useful period. At least in my hands and using my basic thrustmaster twist joystick. So great to hear that this has been addressed in MS24

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