2 hours ago, jcomm said:

The new career mode looks interesting, but I wonder how many will use it with MSFS 2024...

It was a top requested feature, so many will use it. I'm interested in most of the aviation activities, especially the firefighting ones, and search and rescue. Some people seem to think the only job a pilot does is flying from airport A to airport B. 

In his review after being invited to try the demo of 2024, C.W. Lemoine reported that career mode was required to do the missions, and that meant grinding through all the check rides until you held the required licenses or levels for whatever mission you wanted to do.  He greatly disliked that aspect of it, and strongly recommended to Asobo that they allow anyone to try any mission they like, without having to jump through hoops.  I highly agree with him; I might try out some of the missions for fun (whenever I switch to 2024, but it won't be until the add-ons I value are compatible, so it may not be for a while), but there's no way I'll spend my time grinding through affectations of check rides in order to do so.  

Hopefully, they took his advice to heart and change that aspect of it.  Forcing people to play their game your way is usually not popular...

Not interested in missions. However, I am interested in bug fixes for existing terrain and other issues, improved ATC and AI behaviour, and those lovely 3D pebbles.

Although I personally have little interest in avatar creation or career mode, as a pilot and lifelong AOPA member, I wholeheartedly support anything that inspires new or younger generations to embrace the world of aviation.

I’m in the middle of those responses.  Will probably give it a try, see if I like it.  But generally, one of the things I love about flightsim is the freedom to do what I feel like and lack of structure, so I can’t see the career mode being somewhere I spend a lot of time.  I barely touched missions in the current sim.

All that said, if it helps draw in more people and their money to the sim, all the better.

2 hours ago, VeryBumpy said:

You crash landed upside down touching a specific rooftop helipad in bad weather, yay you finished the task and win! Instead I would expect something like that to be a total failure

If you crash/damage an aircraft you bought in the career mode actually will lose use of it and need to do side jobs to earn enough fake money to rebuy/repair it

So no, it’s not as shallow as you’re suggesting.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, kiek said:

Me too. MS is making a game of MSFS, but a flight simulator is not a game... At least not to me.

They’re not making it a game, they’re expanding the scope of the simulation.

All the jobs in career mode are real things people do every day. The Career mode is simulating those jobs, and Asobo consulted with people who do these jobs to make sure they’re an accurate simulation to real life.

an example given, by I believe Jorg, was in air ambulance missions you need to stay at certain altitudes to keep the patient stable. That was feed back given to them by someone in that career.

If anything free flight is more of a ‘game’ then career mode because there’s no consequences. If you crash you can just restart the flight. You can fly any aircraft you want without having to learn how. In career mode you need to do training and pass your check ride for each aircraft classification before you can fly that aircraft.
In career mode if it’s an aircraft you own, you’ll either have to repair it or replace it with the money you earned.

All the missions are procedurally generated. You’re unlikely to get a repeat 

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

30 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

In career mode you need to do training and pass your check ride for each aircraft classification before you can fly that aircraft.

In career mode if it’s an aircraft you own, you’ll either have to repair it or replace it with the money you earned.

All the missions are procedurally generated. You’re unlikely to get a repeat 

NOT a fan of the forced training and passing, but the 2nd and 3rd bits are news to me.

36 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

If anything free flight is more of a ‘game’ then career mode because there’s no consequences. If you crash you can just restart the flight. You can fly any aircraft you want without having to learn how. In career mode you need to do training and pass your check ride for each aircraft classification before you can fly that aircraft.
In career mode if it’s an aircraft you own, you’ll either have to repair it or replace it with the money you earned.

Absolutely spot on!

7 minutes ago, VeryBumpy said:

NOT a fan of the forced training and passing, but the 2nd and 3rd bits are news to me.

You can skip the training, but yeah you have to do the final flight to prove you can do it.

Missions are generated on the fly based on what you have permission to do. So like the first thing you earn, at least in the tech alpha, is the ability to do sight seeing flight jobs.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

1 hour ago, Krakin said:

You definitely haven't been following what the career mode is all about.

@Bobsk8 It's funny that you liked that post when you use A Pilot's Life V2 lol.

A Pilots life uses real world schedules for each airline, and grades the pilots performance on each flight, not some pretend " Do you want to fight fires in a C 172"....😉

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

not some pretend " Do you want to fight fires in a C 172"....

Oh come the heck on you know that isn't true. The sim only assigns aircraft that are appropriate for the job.

So that will be C-415 if you have the base sim, and the 747 Tanker if you have the premium Deluxe/Aviators.

  

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

and grades the pilots performance on each flight

So does the career mode.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

A Pilots life uses real world schedules for each airline, and grades the pilots performance on each flight, not some pretend " Do you want to fight fires in a C 172"....😉

I've got news for you, it's still pretend. Aside from real world schedules, the career mode is going to rate you on your performance and it is NOT going to ask you to put out a fire in a C 172. Try to keep the assumptions at the door.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Krakin

3 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Not in a million years. 

make that a zillion years for me. I've already had two good careers in my lifetime and I don't want another one at this point in the game (the game of life that is, not the game of MSFS). Now 'tis the time for spectacular self indulgence - as someone said to me a while back - "I was born to be retired", and I know exactly how he feels.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by andy1252
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I am really interested about the career mode, just hope that 3RD parties dev will make their aircrafts compatible with it.

It could also be a new market, dev specialized in making courses and flight tests, for addon planes. Imagine AOA, angle of attack interactive training, for the A320, B737, etc..., that would be quite awesome, and a great way to learn a new aircraft

A bit like Boris for the sound.