1 hour ago, Sonosusto said:

Like doing "milk runs" around Alaska using various planes including smaller 737, dc6 and then pretending to be a rich person owning a Duke haha.

Ah yes haha! Or landing on a Hawaiian volcano in the Kodiak. Great fun 😄

1 hour ago, sloppysmusic said:

Not much point now but I'd have loved to see one of your great videos on passing that infernal IFR fs9 /fsx exam! 

I remember it being VERY difficult! Perhaps I'll follow in your footsteps and install FS9 then try one of the checkrides.

Although flight simming probably helped me get into IRL flying, I recall my CFI telling me on the first flight "you've been using Flight Simulator, haven't you? His next comment was something similar to this: 

 

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

I sincerely hope there is much more to getting certification than what we saw in the alpha.

3 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Fortunately for me its a NO as I have a life outside of sitting in front of a screen for hours playing a game. Kudos to those who have the time though. A to B flyer here.

Let’s be honest...aren’t we all sitting in front of a screen pushing virtual buttons for hours when flying from A to B?  

I’m pretty sure most of us here have a life outside of simming. I know I do. That’s why I probably won’t use the career mode *all the time*, but I’m definitely looking forward to interacting with it eventually.  

The most advanced add-on I’ve ever used is the CL650 for X-Plane. With it, you have to walk into a virtual FBO, fill out forms for fuel and payload, check costs, and talk to various ground crew members for at least half an hour before you can even start flying. This approach feels quite similar to what MSFS is aiming for, yet I’ve never heard anyone call the CL650 a ‘gamified’ plane.  

Ultimately, it all comes down to the user. If you engage with the career mode to simulate the life of a pilot or firefighter, you’re focusing on the realistic aspects. If not, that’s perfectly fine too—plenty of people fly from A to B using just the virtual co-pilot.  

3 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

Let’s be honest...aren’t we all sitting in front of a screen pushing virtual buttons for hours when flying from A to B?  

I’m pretty sure most of us here have a life outside of simming. I know I do. That’s why I probably won’t use the career mode *all the time*, but I’m definitely looking forward to interacting with it eventually.  

The most advanced add-on I’ve ever used is the CL650 for X-Plane. With it, you have to walk into a virtual FBO, fill out forms for fuel and payload, check costs, and talk to various ground crew members for at least half an hour before you can even start flying. This approach feels quite similar to what MSFS is aiming for, yet I’ve never heard anyone call the CL650 a ‘gamified’ plane.  

Ultimately, it all comes down to the user. If you engage with the career mode to simulate the life of a pilot or firefighter, you’re focusing on the realistic aspects. If not, that’s perfectly fine too—plenty of people fly from A to B using just the virtual co-pilot.  

I'm not going to be here and quote people all night but you chose to quote mine Just enjoy 2024 when it comes out as I will not be apart of it on DAY 1 2024 installation . 2020 works perfectly fine for me. I care nothing about XP or P3D either.

Some of the comments here are really refreshing which is hopeful to see.

while others are just… exhausting, refusing to even try something they’re not even sure they’d like or not, for fear it’ll make them a gamer or whatever other silly reason they construe. 
 

Anyway, I’m eager to give it a go. I’m interested in how it can keep me stimulated as at times AB flying can get boring even with the very busy classic airliners I fly.

7 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

while others are just… exhausting, refusing to even try something they’re not even sure they’d like or not, for fear it’ll make them a gamer or whatever other silly reason they construe. 

Oh yeah, that weird old fart elitism. Trying so hard to separate themselves from 'gaming' and 'games', a disdain of the very word, because they have this belief that their simulator is some super serious hobby that shan't be tainted by being in the same sphere as those unwashed masses that are 'gamers', silly Xbox kids who probably just drool as they "Press X to fly plane". A simulator to them is supposed to be this inaccessible grey piece of software, the equivalent of opening an excel spreadsheet with zero content outside of what they pay $79 a piece for, to hopefully deter anyone from actually using it and stay in their secluded little gatekept community. 

Yet at the same time, a lot of them migrated over to MSFS and stayed despite multiple other simulators that fit their anti-gaming mentality so much better... It's odd.  

I am too old for a new „career“. i am quite content with my status quo.

I will if I won't be forced or limited to use specific aircraft. I absolutely hate being forced or limited to specific aircraft. If I will be able to use ANY plane I want and then do some 'career stuff' I'll probably check it out. But I suspect you won't be able to do so because afaik the career has you starting in a Cessna or something similar. The idea of having to go through an entire career for weeks or months to get to the plane I like to fly... nooooooooo, thank you!

while waiting for MSFS 2024, I began reading:

"Ferry pilot: nine lives over the north atlantic" and "Call sign Alaska"

ferry flying in the pre-GPS days over the atlantic or above africa with most VORs out of service and without weather reports was anything but a game, even though they gambled with their lives. Imagine flying single pilot, a single engine Cessna 210 from Newfoundland to the Azores on compass and NDB navigation only.

that is something I would be interested in, but only in a "game" aka MSFS 2024 with a survival chance better than 70/30.  slightly  more challenging than following the ILS via FMC on autopilot for the 1.000th time 🤣  

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Another good and often forgotten aspect of a Career mode is that it forces you to fly in places you might never of flown before. With NeoFly I discovered some truly fantastic places that I simply never would've seen had it not been for a particular Job/Mission in that area, the same will happen  with MSFS24s Career I have no doubt. Sometimes those flights were the most rewarding ones for me as not only did my flight have a purpose, but I discovered something cool to see and a place/area that I'd return too another day for a Free Flight.

Having watched the interview with the Asobo co-founder it's clear that Career Mode as it appears in 2024 is their estimate of what people might like. They're quite open to tweaking it depending on feedback. I suspect will be aimed more at the less demanding side since the aim is to get the widest audience.

TL:DR People looking for a rigorous training regime will probably be disappointed but if it can attract far more people into becoming more flight proficient that's no bad thing.

Still not sure what's up with all the negativity. If career mose can actually save you some cash by not puchasing/subscribing to the like of a APL2 or OnAir - and it actually WORKS, then why not. It will not dumb-down the flying aspect and it will not turn the sim into just a game anymore than APL2 etc will. Just cause it's available doen't mean we're headed into the old Microsoft Flight (heaven forbid).

I have never tried the default tubeliners in MSFS2020 - does that mean the sim is word not allowed? Uh... no.

8 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I remember it being VERY difficult! Perhaps I'll follow in your footsteps and install FS9 then try one of the checkrides

Don't tease! That would be fantastic but go the whole hog and install a study level (!) trainer (Just Flight?) and scenery too. You can change the mission files to let you use other planes. 

That test is so iconic it needs a 4k 60 fps quality video tutorial /demo on record. You're the man to do it sir! 📹😎🙏

23 hours ago, kiek said:

Me too. MS is making a game of MSFS, but a flight simulator is not a game... At least not to me.

I think the career simulation is more like real life.  No one starts flying solo on day one.

As long as it is not too restrictive and I can still do my traditional A-B in my desired add-ons I see no reason not to give it a try.  If it means I am "locked in" to career mode and have to use it to "get to" my traditional A-B flying with desired add-ons then no but I don't see that happening.  
I had good fun with a lot of the landing challenges in MSFS 2020 and some of the other activities so as long as I can do either/or I am sure I will give it a try.