Kai Tak

[jvile 1]

I have confirmed that Vista 64 and TTools are compatible and any Vista 64 OS will compile the 3 .txt files into a bgl. AIFPC is another issue.AC# is a reference number between the aircraft.txt and the FP.txt so FS knows which airplane to call for what Flightplan. Many like myself make up our own list of AC# numbers. I use group sets of numbers for type plane and size. Some examplesAC#2000 and up AirbusAC#5000 and up ATR'sAC#8000 and up BoeingAC#31000 and up McDonnell-Douglas/BoeingAC#39000 and up Saabuse something logical or use what WOAI or PAI use.

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

I have just confirmed that too. I could swear that I came across a couple of your posts on one of the many flight sim forums where you have indicated that TTools and AIFPC do not work on Vista 64 bit - now I'm not sure as I am so confused !!! I know AIFPC does not work - TTools do after all - man - do I feel stupid !!! Why then there's no AC# in the aircraft.cfg file - I would think - once created it would receive one for all the flight plans to use ???

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

I have a whole bunch of WOA AI complete packages installed with their own flight plans of course - so when I link new AC# (let's say I use AC#10000) to the title component in the aircraft.cfg in the new flight plans - how do I ensure that new flight plans do not conflict with the already installed flight plans that already use that aircraft (name) - as in: both flight plans happen by chance to schedule the same plane to fly exactly the same flight ? Bear with me please - I'm trying to understand this...

[BMG50 9]

I also am still confused over trying to put Jet AI traffic at KAI TAK,so am watching this thread with great interest......Lou

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

Read this one - great info on AI:http://forums.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthrea...t=160804&page=4

[jvile 1]

JacobMy Kai Tak FP's are not a duplicate of any FP's available from anyone. The FP's are a representation of what was flying into Kai Tak back in 1998.AC# with a different aircraft.cfg name can be used over and over again as long as they are in sepearte compiled bgl's.Example, WOAI may have a AC#1002 B747-400 NWA and a FP that goes to VHHH airport.You can have a AC#1002 Airbus A320-200 UAL that goes to Kai Tak also and it will not conflict as long as they are in 2 seperate compiled TTool bgl's.The rule of the thumb is stay with the WOAI AC# number system (your majority) but for your special User added FP's make up a set of AC# numbers that have not been used. You could also use my AC# numbers and just change the Aircraft title to match what is in your Aircraft.cfg.

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

Thank you - this explains a lot.So what would happen if I had a duplicated identical flight with same AC# and same B747-400 NWA in two different bgls ? How would FSX respond ?

[jvile 1]

The flight is a duplicate but coming from 2 different source compiled bgl's. One FP would have to be removed from one of the compiled bgl's.

[BMG50 9]

>Read this one - great info on AI:>>http://forums.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthrea...t=160804&page=4>>Hi,Jacob....I started that thread and with Jim,s help (and others) I now have lots of AI....except at Jim,s Kai Tak....Have GA,but no airline (jet)...No matter what I do or how many times I do it, I still can,t get the 3rd party AI to work....Hate to ask Jim for more help as he helped me so much in the other thread...So been watching...Lou

[jvile 1]

Turn off Aircraft cast shadows and see if the AI Planes show.I have some non-compliant SP2 code in Kai Tak for the SP1a users that I am updating to SP2.

[tgibson 11]

Hi,The rules are:1. In a single aircraft.txt file you cannot have more than one given AC#.2. In multiple aircraft.txt files you can duplicate the AC#'s from other aircraft.txt files as much as you want. I have dozens of files that all use AC#1 for different aircraft. This AC# thing is only for TTools - after the files are compiled FS will never see them, only the title= line of the cfg files.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

Thank you Jim and the rest of you for sharing your knowledge and experience !!!I finally got the traffic !!! I feel like a kid in Toys'r'us locked up overnight - hahahah !!!Lou - if you're still struggling:Follow Jim's directions and install all your 3rd party traffic to default scenery/world/scenery folder. Deactivate the default FSX traffic bgl, add the VHHX GA bgl and FSX GA bgl provided by Jim in his Kai Tak pack, and then take a shortcut for now and just rename aircraft names in aircraft file, leave AC# as provided by Jim, just grab names from aircraft.cfg of your added AI (MATCH models only) and compile.I know this is a huge shortcut - you will not get the true representation of Jim's Kai Tak traffic - but if you just want to see the traffic at Kai Tak - do this and you're done !!! Of course - I will now proceed to getting all the aircraft/airline models required by Jim's files.

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

BTW - setting winds as Jim instructs - does work !!! I just followed British Airways 747 on Rwy 13 approach - what a view !!!Jim - what's the address ? I'm sending you a case of your favourite beverage !!!

[BMG50 9]

Well,For some reason,I,m just not getting something right....As I said ,I have AI both GA and JET working everywhere else as per the other thread....I have GA at Kai Tak...I dont quite understand completely the Jet files....Here is what I did...First,I looked at Jim,s fp,s and where he has a B747 Cathay airliner AC#8322 (as an example), I then created within my AI folder (in Simobjects) a folder named "VHHX" and then within that foder I put the ac numbers such as AC#8322...Then I copied and pasted the "model","texture","aircraft.cfg","soundai",and ".air" files from a WOAI Cathay Pacific folder into the AC#8322 folder..So I have each AC number with it,s own set of plane files....Is there any changes to the "aircraft.cfg" that need to be made???..I then compiled the 3 .txt files into the Taffic .bgl file using AIFPC in ttools mode(fs9)and installed into sceneryworld/scenery with all the other FP,s...I turned off the airplane cast shadows, but still no luck.....I deeply appreciate any help in getting this to work......PS: I did not use an AC# for every plane in the FP...Just those with alot of flights...problem??....Thanks

[Guest JacobKoziarz]

Wow - you went overboard with the instructions - no worries... the only thing you have to modify is aircraft VHHX JET txt file...Remove everything that you installed so far so we can start clean.1. I install all the AIs to SimObject folder - no need to install into a separate AI folder (but if it works just fine - leave all as they are - you say you have AI everywhere else).2. I assume you installed VHHX scenery correctly and you do have the actual airport with the lead in lights etc. ?3. Open Jim's aircraft VHHX Jet.txt file, keep the AC# same, only thing we'll replace are names of aircraft. To do that - just hunt for the right models thru your AI aircraft.cfg files: ex. AI folder WOA 744 GE for example will have aircraft.cfg file in it for 747-400. Scroll to the bottom of cfg file and find sections containing aircraft names (ex. WOA 747-400 KLM) - copy that and paste that over Jim's Boeing 747-400 Asiana in the aircraft VHHX Jet.txt file. Do this for all AC# lines (do not change anything else) - keep everything else the same (make sure you keep "" around aircraft names). Don't worry about the airlines or repaints etc. for now - you can do that once you learn the AI/flight plans installation process.If you have enough AI installed - you'll have no problems finding different repaints of 747-400 or A340-300 etc. as most aircraft.cfg contain more than one flightsim.x sections with separate aircraft names in them. Try to find unique 747-400 names - or you'll end up with same 747-400 repaint for every 747-400 Jim listed.Of course - if you already have all the models that Jim listed - then of course keep the right models/airlines/textures - just make sure that you grab the names of aircraft from your own aircraft.cfg files.4. Copy 3 flight plan files (with of course your modified aircraft jet vhhx.txt) over to a TTools.exe directory. Start TTools - compile the 3 files - this will create a bgl file in that directory - copy that bgl over to scenery/world/scenery where you have renamed aircraftTraffic.bgl to aircraftTraffic.bgl.xxx and copied the FSX GA and FSX VHHX GA files.STart FSX - you should have the planes.That's all you have to do.If you still have problems - post away...