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My first impressions of MSFS2024

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27 minutes ago, hjsmuc said:

They should have told people that anything less than a 1 GB fibre connection makes this (game) not playable. I have my doubts that this can be solved server side. 

I'm on 100 MBit DSL. No complaints here.

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    I think there really needs to be a 2020 forum and a seperate 2024 forum. This place is going to be insufferable for those of us who have a working 2020 sim and just want to browse without navigating 1

  • Not every poor decision is unchangeable. There are separate forums for every version of MSFS prior to 2020: the sudden dogmatism about 2024 is completely irrational.   

  • You are going to extreme lengths to embarrass yourself with this utterly weird insecurity about your choice to stick to 2020 and not move to 2024 🤣.. I mean, that's great that you are sticking to 2020

6 minutes ago, flightyjoe said:

That is called delusion. No way is it vastly better than 2020, it is 2020 why do people try to convince themselves otherwise? of course some areas will be better and more energy put into them, but just like 2020 there are vast areas which are not any different. Not worth the 70 quid upgrade and the UI looks awful. 


You are going to extreme lengths to embarrass yourself with this utterly weird insecurity about your choice to stick to 2020 and not move to 2024 🤣.. I mean, that's great that you are sticking to 2020 (as am I for now), and you declared you are not moving to 2024 from the get go, but why the need to keep spamming all the 2024 threads like this?
 

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Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

And now on my flight at the moment on MSFS 2020 i get all couple of minutes those bandwith to low, set back to normal settings ( and sets back his own ) what i never had before that often and that is very very annoying and frustrating..

If it stays like this now with the MSFS 2024 and it also affects MSFS 2020, i'm out of the Flightsimulation because thats not what i want to 🤔

cheers 🤨

08.2024 new PC is online :  ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard,  AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage  HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG  3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2

Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.

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10 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Indeed. Because they don't complain that they have to relearn, which is an understandable complaint, they complain about "gamefying" and "catering to the kids on X-Box".

That's irrational deflection.

what has learning something new got to do with my perception the interface is more orientated to a console gamepad?

14 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

And now on my flight at the moment on MSFS 2020 i get all couple of minutes those bandwith to low, set back to normal settings ( and sets back his own ) what i never had before that often and that is very very annoying and frustrating..

If it stays like this now with the MSFS 2024 and it also affects MSFS 2020, i'm out of the Flightsimulation because thats not what i want to 🤔

cheers 🤨

Exactly my biggest fear too. It hampers the entire 2020 and forward platform. So 2024 becomes a brick chained to the 2020 corvette.

I9 12900K @ 5.1ghz P-cores/ 4.0 ghz E-cores fixed HT off / Corsair iCue H150i Capellix Cooler/ MSI Z690 CARBON WiFi / 32GB Corsair DDR5 RAM @ 5200 mhz XMP on / 12GB MSI 4090 RTX Ventus 3 / 7,5 total TB SSD (2+2+2+1+0,5 all NVMe)/ PSU 850W Corsair / 27" (1080P)

4 minutes ago, Piotr007 said:

Exactly my biggest fear too. It hampers the entire 2020 and forward platform. So 2024 becomes a brick chained to the 2020 corvette.

Certainly appears to be, seems to make the FS2020 launch look smooth though .. ..

.. .. this launch has been a total car crash tbh, not actually sure how it could have gone worse.

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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I can`t set it back i am not even ready it sets back its own so i have to leave it like this, now guys i think this gets for futher the biggest problem then still MSFS2020 and now MSFS2024 is in use and MS/Asobe has ASAP to change the Server infastructure because otherwise this flight simulation is no longer fun...

Beginning to hate this MSFS2024 release, destroys everthing that now after 4 years was working almost perfect !! ( at least for me )

I am realy angry 😖 🫣

cheers 🤔

08.2024 new PC is online :  ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard,  AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage  HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG  3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2

Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.

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My first impression taking off from my home airport: the same bad photogrammetry blobs in light green and then, especially for you @Tuskin38, flight done with "real-live air traffic" set on "medium". An A320 from EasyJet and two A330 (!!!!) sitting on the tarmac of LSZB. Seriously Asobo? But you consider that they delivered, no? Ridiculous, all I can say. And I do not even talk about the fully pegged VRAM (running 4K).

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Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

This post just highlights the incompetence of the user tbh

5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX  9070XT.

34 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I don't think that's correct.  you could have a 10GB connection.  The bottleneck is the microsoft servers, not the other side of the connection

I hope you are right. Which makes the launch even more embarrassing then. I understand that the servers could not cope with all the people installing yesterday. But I can't understand why almost 24 hours later not one flight can be launched on minimum settings without PG. 

Hans

I had not considered the likelihood of 2024 hoovering up 2020's server space and bandwidth. 

That's a no brainer. 

In which case that's two sims that won't work properly for me. 

Fingers crossed that isn't the case going forward. But it will probably will be. 

"I don't think that's correct.  you could have a 10GB connection.  The bottleneck is the microsoft servers, not the other side of the connection"

 

And this is a 100% right, the problem is not user side it is definitiv MS server side - maybe it is only the time, what i mean is the usage now that short after the MSFS 2024 release but what even if this happens later on if at some timelines a lot of user are online ?

Than we would see that very often, i think a lot, lot more than we saw it in MSFS 2020, so not funny anymore and as i say before if this gets standard like it is now i am out of Flightsimulation - don`t wanna kill my nerves with something like this..

cheers 🤔

08.2024 new PC is online :  ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard,  AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage  HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG  3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2

Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.

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First Impressions?

This thing doesn't work.

I've spent hours watching spinning circles and queue/bandwidth/server errors.  Now that I'm able to get to the main menu any attempts to fly are met with more bandwidth errors and spinning circles.  I've yet to see a runway.

Asobo are well aware of the numbers.  This was some economic decision on server capacity expectations post launch or longer term.  

I do not accept their apology.  

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That has already been requested, considered and denied.

There is a single forum for Prepar3D’s six versions and a single one for X-Plane.

The solution is to tag your posts.

 

Fair enough, Ray. Asking people to adhere to "tagging" their 2024 threads will be like herding cats I suspect! Hopefully people will be respectful.

B450 Tomahawk Max / Ryzen 7 5800x3D / RTX 3060ti 8G / Noctua NH-UI21S Max Cooling / 32G Patriot RAM / 1TB NVME / 450G SSD / Thrustmaster TCA & Throttle Quadrant / Xiaomi 32" Wide Curved Monitor 1440p 144hz

Well, to be honest, todays attempt went through flawlessly. I have a 2.5Gbit/s Ethernet connection from my desktop to my router and the router has a 10Gbit/s fibre connection to the iNet. Effective I get between 2200 and 2400Mbit/s when downloading from Contrail or STEAM for example and as such, I consider my connection pretty darn fast. No issues with loading of terrain, planes, scenarios or whatsover today, so maybe it is not ONLY the server side to blame... But my first impression is underwhelming, why they have changed the default controls is a mistery to me, even more why there is no option to import the MSFS2020 controls, sensitivities and assignments...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

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