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[Nov 23] 777F will be released for MSFS 2020

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6 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Lets not kid ourselves no one is even challenging iFly and especially not PMDG. But hey never say never as we don't need any more Boeing 7 series or Airbus 3 series.

Who are you kidding, there are quite a few Boeing "7's" that are still needed (even PMDG have several more in their pipeline).

And Just Flight is cooking up another A3 as we speak, with iB working on the A350, A380, and maybe pulling the A220 to market

And if Working Title can get their 744s up to snuff, it'll certainly take the wind out of PMDGs sails (sales? 😆).

RSR is under the gun like NEVER before, and he better get his act together - fast.

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9 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

No its not just stop it and stop insulting people who do not agree with you.

Ok that's perfectly fine that you think MSFS 2024 is not excellent.

But that comment about "MSFS 2024 really is MS Flight 2", do you agree with it? And if so, how is it like MS Flight? 🙂

 

Edited by lwt1971

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

regarding the 737 Max, I did KEWR to KMIA and it flew fine, only issue was the number displays being tied to a brightness knob which I've read online is not accurate to the real thing.

I just wish it had a full simbrief import (flightplan and payload) but according to WorkingTitle they're leaving that up to third parties to do.

Edited by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

While it's got its share of problems (most of which I'm not affected by...), its a substantially better sim across the board.

Yea, the literally hundreds of posts for hundreds of users on the official forums of nothing but bugs, streaming issues and everything in between but somehow you’re not affected by most any of them. Riiiight, whatever you want to tell us to make yourself feel better for jumping into the flaming pile of garbage on day 1.

Eric 

 

 

5 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

But that comment about "MSFS 2024 really is MS Flight 2", do you agree with it?

No I do not but can some people except that some of us are not on the MS2024 bandwaggon just yet?

17 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

2024 is excellent.

Lol, okay. How far in the sand is your head? The official forums would beg to disagree.

Eric 

 

 

2 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Lol, okay. How far in the sand is your head? The official forums would beg to disagree.

It depends on what you use the sim for, and if the servers near you are running well if the sim is good or not.

I've only been doing free flight and have very few sim killing issues.

I did RKSI to EDDF a couple days ago in the 747-8F and the sim performed well, better than 2020 after a long haul

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2 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

No I do not but can some people except that some of us are not on the MS2024 bandwaggon just yet?

No need for dramatics here.. and obviously there is no need to be on any "bandwagon".

But a stupid comment like that is going to get called out. When opinions are posted on discussion forums, countering opinions will also get posted 🤷‍♂️

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

9 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Who are you kidding

 

Of course i'm kidding but we don't need any more Bredoks or Captin sim planes as we need more authentic to the quality of PMDG, Just Flight, iFly and Fenix and I just don't think many other developers could step up to the plate at the moment to deliver products like that (maybe FS Labs in the future). I don't want to see no more 20$ trash sold on the marketplace trying to take peoples quick money. That's all i'm saying. Now back to the topic.

8 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Lol, okay. How far in the sand is your head? The official forums would beg to disagree.

Forums tend to draw people to them who are having difficulty and it is a place to air their issues and sometimes to try to get help, so that is not surprising. The forums after 2020 were released were exactly the same. There are clear issues, both problems running the sim and issues with design choices, but it is not a complete disaster unworthy of redemption. It will get better, it will just take months, just like every other significant simulator update. I have not seen anything that suggests it cannot be an excellent platform, in fact it has a number of things that we have been asking for for a long time. I hope we can be constructive and focused, identify the key issues and voice them because that will likely help things move along much faster.

That said I also think Asobo needs to communicate!

MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.

3 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

No need for dramatics here.. and obviously there is no need to be on any "bandwagon".

But a stupid comment like that is going to get called out. When opinions are posted on discussion forums, countering opinions will also get posted 🤷‍♂️

What is so stupid about my comment as I find that kind of offensive but as usual I kind of expect this type of behavior around here these days. Carry on. Do you even own MS2024 yet?

14 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It depends on what you use the sim for, and if the servers near you are running well if the sim is good or not.

I've only been doing free flight and have very few sim killing issues.

So you have some inside knowledge that you come here and state definitely that it’s only a matter of “if the servers near you are running well if the sim is good or not”? So how long have you worked for Asobo?

Also by your logic, if the server is running fine then there are no other bugs present? Surely you’re not dismissing the literal hundreds of posts about bugs not specifically related to streaming on the official forums or are you saying everyone of those folks are wrong and it’s all matter of everyone from around the world living by a bad server save for you?

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12 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Yea, the literally hundreds of posts for hundreds of users on the official forums of nothing but bugs, streaming issues and everything in between but somehow you’re not affected by most any of them. Riiiight, whatever you want to tell us to make yourself feel better for jumping into the flaming pile of garbage on day 1.

I've no reason to lie, my dude. 🤙

I have other sims to fly (and MSFS isn't even my favorite!) so you can't even get away with saying I have confirmation bias.

I've had exactly two crashes, both caused by filtering the aircraft list by Type. So, um, I don't do that any more, and guess what...? No more crashes!

No other problems, as hard as that might be for YOU to believe.

If v2024 was a mess, I'd be happy to share the news.

But it isn't for me, and I'm happy to share THAT news as well.

11 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Also by your logic, if the server is running fine then there are no other bugs present? Surely you’re not dismissing the literal hundreds of posts about bugs not specifically related to streaming on the official forums or are you saying everyone of those folks are wrong and it’s all matter of everyone from around the world living by a bad server save for you?

Not dismissing any of those bugs, I have even reported some myself. But none of them are sim killing for me.

Nothing makes me want to go back to 2020. 2024 is still superior despite the bugs. Now that the Fenix (mostly) works in 2024 I really have no reason to go back.

Edited by Tuskin38

10 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Of course i'm kidding but we don't need any more Bredoks or Captin sim planes as we need more authentic to the quality of PMDG, Just Flight, iFly and Fenix and I just don't think many other developers could step up to the plate at the moment to deliver products like that (maybe FS Labs in the future). I don't want to see no more 20$ trash sold on the marketplace trying to take peoples quick money. That's all i'm saying. Now back to the topic.

All the developers I mentioned have or are developing a reputation for Hi Fi add-ons.

It's sadly true that Captain Sim has taken the low road in MSFS, but it's also true that they used to put out good add-ons in the ESP titles.

And, their fidelity level, while low, is steadily rising.

All of which is to say, it wouldnt be a shocker if they did.

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