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MSFS2024 makes me buy a new PC!

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2 minutes ago, hanhamreds said:

I’m going to wait to see what the 9950X3D brings to the table.

requires only a small table, some 10% - 15% which boils down to 5-7 fps increase, at low resolutions. 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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  • There's no power to unleash in MS2024.😶  What you have with this release is a buggy sim that should start to get fixed next month.  If you can run FS2020 well now, FS2024 should run better on your cur

  • It's hard to understand how some simmers go out and buy more ram, a new gpu, or even a new computer for a broken sim. I tried to warn some, but most don't read or listen. MSFS was rushed out the door

  • flyingscampi
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    @mistolip Don't let the tsunami of misery posted here crush your high spirits. 2024 runs fine on the same hardware as 2020 and has far more detail. A better PC means you can enjoy 2024 and 2020 w

Just now, Simselli said:

I have far better performance in 2024 compared to 2020. Where i had to run auto-fps, ,and would drop to 30 fps at the likes of KJFK or EGLL. (2K) Now on MSFS2024, i am getting 60-68fps, no stuttering, no freezing for 4-5 seconds, Even running GSX from today as it's now compatible. Scenery is stunning, weather is stunning.

PC Specs (same for both)

AMD 7800x3d, MSI Tomahawk M/Board, Radeaon RX6800 12 gb GPU, 64gb DDR5 6000mhz Ram, 2x 2tb nvMe, 2 x4tb nvme's  And probably the biggest help with a Cloud based sim is 1gb Full Fibre.


Simselli and others who're seeing better performance vs 2020, like I've seen from other reports assuming you guys are seeing more of the CPU cores being utlilized, and efficiently? 
 

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

10 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

Have one already, but bought for MSFS2020 because my last PC was getting to old and he definitely became too weak on the chest. But that will also be enough for MSFS2024 hopefully, see my specs..

So after some months i will jump in to MSFS2024 but until that i will stay at MSFS2020 !

cheers 😉

Sorry, ignore, I quoted wrong post 🙄

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FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps

1 minute ago, lwt1971 said:


Simselli and others who're seeing better performance vs 2020, like I've seen from other reports assuming you guys are seeing more of the CPU cores being utlilized, and efficiently? 
 

To be honest i have never checked, after the first couple of days fiasco it's been fine.

AMD Ryzen 7800x3d   64gb DDR5, Sapphire 7900 GPU MSSI Tomahawk AM5 M/Board. 1x 4tb Crucial M.2  SSD, 3x 2tb Crucial M.2 SSD's

I really think 64GB ram would be a help for my system.  I've already seen it over 32GB when using a quick test medley of heavy addons.

I know a lot of people are saying "it will run better."  I believe if the settings were similar to 2020 it might but the new sim is more demanding from my limited testing.  Especially once you add in ray traced shadows, trees, tessellated textures etc.

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

Any excuse for a new PC 🙂

Specs: 11900K (5ghz), 64GB ram 3600mhz, RTX 3080 ti

18 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Curious what your PC specs are!

In my signature. I got the 7900 in 2023 when the 4070 only had 12GB RAM and the 4080 cost twice as much, exceeding my budget.

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps

2 minutes ago, rocketlaunch said:

Any excuse for a new PC 🙂

This guy get's it! HAHA!

I upgraded from a 4790K to a 12700K right as the 5800x3d's were coming out... bad timing to stick with Intel hehe.  It's been a GREAT rig but once you crank the eye candy (and I do), especially in VR, it's very limited even with a RTX 4080.  I think the 7800X3D just easily demolishes my 12700K in flightsim.

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

51 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

I've read even less fps is required for the human eye.

You’re correct!

Prior studies have found that, this one was remarkable because it found a new upper limit, somewhat higher than previously believed.

So, it is a new high and still not much higher than the 60 fps most of us already are getting in the sim.

4 hours ago, mistolip said:

Does any of the satisfied users run the sim at flat out Ultra? 

Yes, flat out Ultra. Have not turned anything down from the default Ultra settings. My PC info is in my signature below. I am running in full 4k on a 4k monitor, just as I was in 2020 with the same PC hardware. I am getting the same frames I was getting in 2020, BUT, that is because I use Riva Tuner to keep my frames locked at 63 which is roughly half of my monitor's refresh rate. So, my FPS in 2024 is the same as 2020, HOWEVER, I cannot run 2020 at all Ultra and further, the sim does not look nearly as good as 2024. And further yet, 2024 just is plain fluid. For me there are not micro stutters or pauses, and the two planes I have been flying mostly are the Fenix A320 and the A2A Comanche, BOTH which are performing well in 2024 for me. And further yet still, I am using GSX (as per FSDT's instructions for 2024) without issue when flying the Fenix. 

Other than the struggles logging in within the first 24 hours, I have not had any problems with MSFS 2024 with the way I have been using it. Not saying there are not any, just I have not encountered them. 

AMD Ryzen 9900X3D & ASUS X870E Gaming Plus MB, w/64 Gb GSkill DDR5 RAM, PNY RTX 5090 GPU, lots of SSD's and M.2 drives, HAVN  Case, Virpil VPC Panels 2 and 3, Virpil Constellation Alpha Stick, Virpil Rotor TCS Plus w/ Hawk-60 Collective grip, TM TCA Yoke Boeing Edition, TM HOTAS A-10 and F/A-18 Sticks and TM TPR Rudder pedals. Currently on Win11

 

 

Is it somewhat valid to say if we can run FS2020 well, FS20204 is likely going to run well too?

FS2020 runs well on my setup, and after using Lossless Scaling and DX 11, I am having the most satisfying and stable MSFS2020 experience, both within the sim and outside (GPU temp, CPU load etc).

Should I give it a go?

 

Edited by History

DA B760M PRO4 | i5-13400F | RTX 3060 12 GB | G.Skills Ripjaws 32GB | MSI MAG A550BN | Ace Power 1 TB NVMe  | Cooler Master Hyper 212

My two cents...

Obviously, it's your money and you can do whatever you want.

Also obviously, if you buy a top-of-the-line system, you'll probably get great performance.

That being said, you may get more value by waiting 6 months to see what adjustments have been made to MSFS 2024, and to hear what the experience of many users has been. If your priority is best experience at least price, then I'd wait until MSFS 2024 settles down into a more stable iteration, and you can learn from what others have seen.

Your call though, based on your own priorities.

 

 

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7 hours ago, flyingscampi said:

In my signature. I got the 7900 in 2023 when the 4070 only had 12GB RAM and the 4080 cost twice as much, exceeding my budget.

Ah, okay, I am following this topic on my mobile phone and don't see any signatures there. I will check this topic on my PC later on to see what hardware people are using!

32 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Ah, okay, I am following this topic on my mobile phone and don't see any signatures there. I will check this topic on my PC later on to see what hardware people are using!

I never noticed that!

AMD 5800X3D, 64GB DDR4, RADEON 7900 XT, 1440p

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps

Hi,

I bought MS2024 without upgrading my PC.

My intention was to see how the simulator was going and, consequently, to know what upgrade to do.

Graphics and FPS are worse than in MS2020.

Apparently, I will have to wait a long time, as what I have read from users with powerful GPUs and CPUs is discouraging.

Maybe when the new GeForce 5000 series comes out... I don't know

But what CPU? I think this is the question.

Greetings

 

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