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MSFS2024 makes me buy a new PC!

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I posted on another thread a scientific study by MIT that the human eye cannot detect more than 75 fps…

… so more is waste.

And if it looks smooth without stuttering that should be enough!

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  • It's hard to understand how some simmers go out and buy more ram, a new gpu, or even a new computer for a broken sim. I tried to warn some, but most don't read or listen. MSFS was rushed out the door

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    @mistolip Don't let the tsunami of misery posted here crush your high spirits. 2024 runs fine on the same hardware as 2020 and has far more detail. A better PC means you can enjoy 2024 and 2020 w

38 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

the GPU is definitely the bottleneck at 4K and everything maxed out.

same for me, but isn't that exactly what we were demanding all that time, maximum load by MSFS to use the hardware to the max? and while we now have 60+ fps and smooth performance, all is well, for me at least. now looking forward for my CPU load to go up from 50% to 90% 😄

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

Just now, mistolip said:

Does any of the satisfied users run the sim at flat out Ultra? 

Yes, Ultra settings at default except for motion blur which I turn off (for visual effect not performance.)

No add-ons yet...

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
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1 minute ago, turbomax said:

same for me, but isn't that exactly what we were demanding all that time? and while we now have 60+ fps and smooth performance, all is well, for me at least. now looking forward for my CPU load to go up from 50 to 90% 😄

For sure. I don't understand why some people are complaining. It's much better to be GPU limited than CPU limited.

Definitely looking forward to the 5090, though!

2 hours ago, desbean said:

I would wait a couple of months.

If you're going to buy hardware anyway, the time to buy is now.  It's the week of Black Friday, the BIGGEST sale day of the year in the US.

Hence, the reason to jump into MSFS 2024 now, find out if you need an upgrade and buy when pricing is at its lowest for computers.

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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16 minutes ago, brinx said:

I have better performance in 2024 than 2020.

Same number of addons?

 

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If you have a capable CPU, GPU running at 99% is not surprising. 

Yep, it also depends on the where you're flying and the weather.  In 2020 with "just" an aging 5950X I've managed to get my 4090 to hit 90%+ at 3440x1440 ultrawide "2K' resolution over England (not London) with some heavy real world clouds going on.  Although I also typically run at 115% render scale.

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2 hours ago, mistolip said:

So coming december or january I will be shopping for a new PC. Yihaaaa! 

What download speeds are you achieving? Some folk might be better off investing in either a fibre or satellite ISP.

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8 minutes ago, Los said:

I posted on another thread a scientific study by MIT that the human eye cannot detect more than 75 fps…

… so more is waste.

And if it looks smooth without stuttering that should be enough!

I've read even less fps is required for the human eye.  There is a reason why traditionally movies are still shot at 24 frames per second and tv shows are broadcast at 29.97 fps. See: High frame rate - Wikipedia

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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28 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

There is a reason why traditionally movies are still shot at 24 frames per second and tv shows are broadcast at 29.97 fps.

that is totally not relevant here. fuzziness caused by motion captured in between movie frames is different from how animation in computer games is generated. in other words: there is a reason professional simulators run at 60 fps. which is more important than scenery quality that we expect and take for granted. you can not have animation of fine text and sharp instrument needles where adjacent pixels may have a totally different colors at 24 fps, unless you introduce fuzzy frames in between.

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

1 hour ago, mistolip said:

It struggles with 2024 while 2020 was great.

2024 runs even better than 2020 for me. Yes, not all is on ultra (yet) but high gives me a near perfect experience already, even in the ini/Fenix/FBW A320s. I would wait until the teething problems are covered by the next few patches - unless you just need a justification for getting new hardware…

Phil Leaven

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26 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

Yes, Ultra settings at default except for motion blur which I turn off (for visual effect not performance.)

No add-ons yet...

Curious what your PC specs are!

Have one already, but bought for MSFS2020 because my last PC was getting to old and he definitely became too weak on the chest. But that will also be enough for MSFS2024 hopefully, see my specs..

So after some months i will jump in to MSFS2024 but until that i will stay at MSFS2020 !

cheers 😉

08.2024 new PC is online :  ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard,  AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage  HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG  3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2

Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.

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I was going to buy a new bundle based on the 9800X3D, but I’m going to wait to see what the 9950X3D brings to the table.

gpu wise the 5070/5070ti maybe the one to go for this generation 

whatever you do don’t buy a 4090 now - it’s a terrible purchase and not good value at all. 
 

 

New PC Ryzen 9850X3D - 32gb ddr5 6000Mhz - MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk wifi - Gigabyte wind force gaming OC 5090 - 2TB Sabrent NVMe. Old PC - Ryzen 5900x - 32gb 3600Mhz RAM - Asus Strix X570-F Motherboard - ASUS TUF OC RTX 3090 - 1TB Sabrent NVMe. AOC AGON 32" 144Hz - Honeycomb Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. T Flight Rudder Pedals - Trackir.

I have far better performance in 2024 compared to 2020. Where i had to run auto-fps, ,and would drop to 30 fps at the likes of KJFK or EGLL. (2K) Now on MSFS2024, i am getting 60-68fps, no stuttering, no freezing for 4-5 seconds, Even running GSX from today as it's now compatible. Scenery is stunning, weather is stunning.

PC Specs (same for both)

AMD 7800x3d, MSI Tomahawk M/Board, Radeaon RX6800 12 gb GPU, 64gb DDR5 6000mhz Ram, 2x 2tb nvMe, 2 x4tb nvme's  And probably the biggest help with a Cloud based sim is 1gb Full Fibre.

AMD Ryzen 7800x3d   64gb DDR5, Sapphire 7900 GPU MSSI Tomahawk AM5 M/Board. 1x 4tb Crucial M.2  SSD, 3x 2tb Crucial M.2 SSD's

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