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Recent release: Freeware Fokker F-27

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9 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

Brilliant! This is what I cobbled together but didn't put in myevents.txt as didn't want to crash the sim!

So if I understand correctly, you haven't tried this yet? I don't understand all the bits in there (I'm hazy on what $Param does), but I don't think you can go wrong by trying. Make a backup of myevents.txt, and if the sim does crash, restore the old one and you should be back to normal.

I'd recommend opening Tools / Behavior / Local Variables, that way you can see what values you're writing to the LVARs and adjust accordingly.

9 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

I get this, I presume that's for RAW yes? If I use data from the drivers not the device direct it's already 0-100?

Ah - so if there's a way you can get values that are already in that range, even better! Then I think you can just do

SOME NAME FOR THE EVENT#@ (>L:f275_CondLev01_Pos)

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  • So if I understand correctly, you haven't tried this yet? I don't understand all the bits in there (I'm hazy on what $Param does), but I don't think you can go wrong by trying. Make a backup of myeven

2 hours ago, martinboehme said:

So if I understand correctly, you haven't tried this yet

Today, as was too late to start mucking about last night. I've opened the local variables and done same in fsuipc so they match. I even know how to open a window with fsuipc that logs JUST those variables so I can see changes without half screen being covered (only one monitor meh). 

Today should be interesting! 

Russell Gough

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15 hours ago, martinboehme said:

F27 HP LEVER 1 SET#@ 16384 + 327 / near 0 max 100 min (>L:f275_CondLev01_Pos)

F27 HP LEVER 2 SET#@ 16384 + 327 / near 0 max 100 min (>L:f275_CondLev02_Pos)

Hey Martin this controls the axis in fsuipc PERFECTLY except in reverse and the assign page I'm using won't allow axis reversal lol. 

Is there a way of inverting the code above without complicated math? I thought of using near 100 max 0 would that work? 

I guess not as it would probably yield 0 range therefore 0 output. 

So close! 

EDIT:

Found this

[quote="geoffda, post:5, topic:501360"]
To reverse an axis that does not go through FSUIPC calibration, you can use the **Additional parameters to scale input axis values** functionality (see page 40 of the Advanced User guide). Basically you need to add a scale number of -1 to the axis assignment, e.g. add ',*-1' to the end of the axis assignment line in your FSUIPC7.ini file.
[/quote]

Looking for manual no for example syntax.

FROM ADVANCED MANUAL

Additional parameters to scale input axis values Axis values assigned in FSUIPC can be arithmetically adjusted before being passed onto FSUIPC calibration (or to FS via FS controls). To do this you assign the axis as normal, then edit the FSUIPC7.INI file. Find the axis assignment there, in the relevant [Axes] section, and add one or both of these parameters to the end: ,* to multiply the axis value by . This can be a fraction, such as 0.5 (to divide by 2), and it can be negative, to reverse the axis direction. Fractions can be expressed to 7 decimal places. ,+ or - to add or subtract a number (an integer, no fractions) to or from the value. If both parameters are given, the multiplication must come first, and is performed first. The resulting value is constrained to be in the range -16384 to +16383 except when the assignment is to an offset, where no restriction is imposed.. As an example, if the normal input range of an axis is -16384 to + 16383 and you only want the positive half, but need to still use the whole of the lever movement:

,*0.5,+8192 would be added to the assignment. The *0.5 changes the range to -8192 to +8191, and then adding 8192 gives 0 to +16383. After editing, just tell FSUIPC to reload the axis assignments (a button on the Axes page). You won't see the results there, but you will in the calibrations.

Here are the lines in fsuipc7.ini

[Axes.F27]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=DY,256,F,PF27 HP LEVER 1 SET,0,0,0    -{ TO SIM: Preset Control }-
1=DU,256,F,PF27 HP LEVER 2 SET,0,0,0    -{ TO SIM: Preset Control }-

I have changed to 

[Axes.F27]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=DY,256,F,PF27 HP LEVER 1 SET,0,0,0,*-1    -{ TO SIM: Preset Control }-
1=DU,256,F,PF27 HP LEVER 2 SET,0,0,0,*-1   -{ TO SIM: Preset Control }-

Here goes!

Ahh reloaded presets crashed fsuipc. Restarted still in reverse.

hmmmm

SUCCESS!!

Installed 7.50 latest fsuipc7 with support for 2024.

Edited ini again, my changes were not there,,,so added again reloaded in sim and now I have 

full working HP lever axis in right direction over full range, detent closed works well too.

Thanks so much for your help martin!! I'm going to screen shot the settings and your code lines above for others now

:D

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Russell Gough

SE London

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1 hour ago, sloppysmusic said:

SUCCESS!!

Fantastic - happy to hear you've made it work! 

1 hour ago, martinboehme said:

Fantastic - happy to hear you've made it work! 

WE'VE made it work :D

Many thanks!

Russell Gough

SE London

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I loved this. Showed early tests including some very low engine out flying (500ft?!) and short landing (less than 180 metres!! ) plus go arounds. 

The strong crosswind on takeoff and quick rudder correction made me not feel so bad in the sim. 

Different cockpit from the 500 with 2 extra levers I didn't recognise.. Prop controls? 

History buffs enjoy 😎

 

Russell Gough

SE London

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24 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

I loved this. Showed early tests including some very low engine out flying (500ft?!) and short landing (less than 180 metres!! ) plus go arounds. 

Very nice -- thanks!

25 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Different cockpit from the 500 with 2 extra levers I didn't recognise.. Prop controls?

I think the two leftmost and two rightmost levers are just duplicated throttle levers for the captain and first officer. Notice how, when they relight the left engine, one of the levers on the right moves in sync with the throttle lever that the captain advances on the left. The two levers in the middle, between the duplicated throttles, are the HP levers, I think.

Thank you both Martin and Russell but you lost me at the very first item... Where do you include this My EventText file exactly please? I tried in the root FSUIPC folder, no dice, and in the EventFile folder with no luck either. Is this a simple Notepad file you write or do you use another software to write it? Thanks for your kind help.

Never mind I found how to do it and it works fine, many, many thanks!!!

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Bernard

CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2, 

Is there an English version of the cockpit ?

Dave Hinson

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1 hour ago, dhinson said:

Is there an English version of the cockpit ?

Yes.

Whether the cockpit is English or French is linked to which livery you select, IIUC. For the liveries included with the base package, the Air Inter livery gives you a French cockpit while the all white livery gives you an English cockpit.

I just completed a short LOWS-LOWW flight and now have a reasonably good grasp on most items.

What a brilliant piece of work done by this freeware developer who gave us back in FS9/FSX the Caravelle 12. That is his first delivery to MSFS and what a masterpiece!

Decidedly this community of freeware developers will never cease to astonish me with their passion that they want to share!

This release was done quietly, and I almost missed it, it is only because I saw one livery on Flightsim.to for a Fokker 27 that I stopped and thought "Hold on, what is this, I never saw a F27 in MSFS...", and that livery led me to the plane package.

Kudos to the discreet Bgaurant!!! 5  stars are in order, not enough publicity on AVSIM where freeware planes are generally ignored or looked down upon....

Bernard

CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2, 

2 hours ago, dhinson said:

Is there an English version of the cockpit ?

Dave Hinson

 

1 hour ago, martinboehme said:

Yes.

Whether the cockpit is English or French is linked to which livery you select, IIUC. For the liveries included with the base package, the Air Inter livery gives you a French cockpit while the all white livery gives you an English cockpit.

There is a very simple way to make all the liveries show English text, you change one word u think in a config file i saw yesterday from memory but I can't recall where I saw it lol. 

I'll edit this post if /when I find the info. 

EDIT 

was in f27 thread on Sim outhouse. 

https://sim-outhouse.org/sohforums/threads/heads-up-fokker-mk500.163921/#post-1379583 

 

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Russell Gough

SE London

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While I'm here I'll mention a couple small issues i have that might only affect me so I'll add that caveat. 

1) GPU has issues with appearing and disappearing sometimes every few seconds making engine start with external power impossible. Can you start with battery alone? 

2) Can't tune the ac for different stages of flights as both TGT switches seem to have no effect so leave them on full always, also throttles work fine but the rpm is either maxed out or idle, can't fine tune that either so just back off a little during cruise. 

3)Every landing so far if I don't plant it down fast I will float all over place like I used to in the a2a piper cub in fsx in any wind. Sideways up down you name it. 

Finally a system question :

Does the vor /app lock include ILS gs vertical coupling or do I need manage that myself? Was going to do a test earlier but didn't have time. 

 

Russell Gough

SE London

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