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why I simply can't go back to MSFS 2020 Land

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NZMJ Martin's bay - for your general aviation eyes only!

 

is it MS24 or is it Memorex?

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pebble beach

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the promised 2024 land

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my pebbles!

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and more pebbles

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pebble beach

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for a few pebbles more:

I kept the MSFS2024 menu title and camera menu, otherwise this might look like it was taken from a Condenast postcard

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very nice.

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  • Beautiful pics. We really need separate forums for 2024 & 2020. Mods this is getting ridiculous.

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    Nice pics! I remember there was a certain person last year, who kept coming to the MSFS forums here, and kept ranting about the "pebbles, pebbles, and pebbles" on the MSFS 2024 presentation and d

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I still have hopes for the scenery in XP12.2 when released, but at present it's difficult to start a sim session in any other sim, excluding DCS World and in some aspects and due to the specific modelling of gliders Condorsoaring too, without feeling that I have to rush back to FS 2024's scenery...

Simply astounding, the quality and level of details in FS 2024...

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Nice pics!

I remember there was a certain person last year, who kept coming to the MSFS forums here, and kept ranting about the "pebbles, pebbles, and pebbles" on the MSFS 2024 presentation and demo at Flight Sim Expo 2023.  This person was constantly demeaning how the MSFS team was using AI to make the terrain look better for the entire world.

Fast forward to the release of MSFS 2024, we can truly see how the AI the MSFS team used, has made the entire world looks so good from up close at ground level, for MSFS 2024.  Like that person totally missed the bigger picture, which is that MSFS 2024 isn't just about "pebbles, pebbles, and pebbles."  🤣

Now the entire flight sim community has seen what MSFS 2024 is capable of at the ground level, which is a huge bonus if you like bush flying, low level helicopter flying, and just low level flying in general.  And when they fix the bugs in MSFS 2024 (and they will), and more 3rd party developers port their add-ons over to MSFS 2024, more of the flight sim community will move to MSFS 2024, and I think MSFS 2024 will eventually replace MSFS 2020, as the best civilian flight sim ever made.

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It is quite amazing seeing 2020 looking so flat now, just a week after 2024 release.  When I see 2020 now, that awful colour balance really stands out.

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2 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

It is quite amazing seeing 2020 looking so flat now, just a week after 2024 release.  When I see 2020 now, that awful colour balance really stands out.

I'm waiting for PMDG to port the 737-800 to MSFS 2024. That's the only reason why I still have MSFS 2020 installed at the moment. When they port it over, I removing MSFS 2020 from my hard drive.  I exclusively fly MSFS 2024 now, even with all its warts and bugs. It's just so much better than MSFS 2020 (and I think MSFS 2020 was the best civllian flight sim before MSFS 2024's release).

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Why are those screenshots not loading for me? All I see are five instances of "spacer.png" :huh:

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Yeah down low MSFS 2024 looks gorgeous. For me as an airliner flyer it's not that important, but I already kind of miss the trees from MSFS2024 when I taxi in MSFS2020, it's that vastly different. Once they fix the sim time and weather-sim-time bugs, I'll fly in 2024 as much as possible.

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Just now, Fiorentoni said:

For me as an airliner flyer it's not that important

What about the colour balance / lighting / cloud improvements?

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Beautiful pics.

We really need separate forums for 2024 & 2020. Mods this is getting ridiculous.

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9 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

What about the colour balance / lighting / cloud improvements?

I was talking about "down low".

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Got my wireless Xbox Game Controller yesterday and its all setup for walking around. No more keyboard keys need. Got it for reasons like this. To be able to walk around after landing and explore a bit. With the new terrain, even default airports look a bit customized. What I appreciate the most now is that the earth is so colorful and crisp looking. Flew over a football field belonging to a high school and could easily read the name, which makes flight VFR finally a real thing.

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Stunning.. and what's even more impressive to me is that not only does the ground look this good/detailed, but it's an integral part of the ground handling physics for aircraft where the finely modelled 3D ground mesh and 3D objects on them interact with the 3D tires of the aircraft in natural ways, and all the frictions/collisions/skidding/wheel-slowdown/etc happen as a natural occurrence of modelling everything at the 4000x detailed level, without needing to have separate handling in code for different surfaces types as done traditionally in sims.

Seb explains it all here at this point in an earlier interview:

 

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21 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Stunning.. and what's even more impressive to me is that not only does the ground look this good/detailed, but it's an integral part of the ground handling physics for aircraft where the finely modelled 3D ground mesh and 3D objects on them interact with the 3D tires of the aircraft in natural ways, and all the frictions/collisions/skidding/wheel-slowdown/etc happen as a natural occurrence of modelling everything at the 4000x detailed level, without needing to have separate handling in code for different surfaces types as done traditionally in sims.

Seb explains it all here at this point in an earlier interview:

Yup, it's not just the better graphics, better ground terrain, better cloud and weather, and reduction in stutters.  It's also the vastly improved ground handling, and improved flight model.  We are getting so much more with MSFS 2024.

Yes, there are a lot of bugs, especially bugs with Career Mode. But if you just use Free Flight, which is pretty much what most of us use in MSFS 2020, MSFS 2024 is offering so much more than MSFS 2020.  Now granted, some people are still having problems with loading the textures and objects, but I think those issues will get better as the patches and Sim Updates keep coming to fix MSFS 2024.

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26 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I was talking about "down low".

Yes I know, but as an airliner flyer you say you don't benefit from the improvements down low. However, you do benefit from balance / lighting / cloud improvements.

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1 hour ago, jcomm said:

😍

I still have hopes for the scenery in XP12.2 when released, but at present it's difficult to start a sim session in any other sim, excluding DCS World and in some aspects and due to the specific modelling of gliders Condorsoaring too, without feeling that I have to rush back to FS 2024's scenery...

Simply astounding, the quality and level of details in FS 2024...

How many Terabytes of scenery does XP 12 require to look decent, and at what cost? 

 

 

 

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