November 30, 20241 yr Nice screenshots 👌 Unfortunately I will never see them as I am a 738 flyer… Enjoy 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
November 30, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: How many Terabytes of scenery does XP 12 require to look decent, and at what cost? I'm going to go on record and predict that XP 13 won't look as good graphically, especially at the ground level, as MSFS 2024. It's possible that XP 13 catches up with MSFS 2024 graphically, but IMO, unlikely. With XP 12, the engine is simply not as efficient as MSFS 2020, nevermind MSFS 2024. The clouds are still blurry in the latest version of XP 12 that I have seen, and this is one of the biggest problems of XP 12 for me, the blurry clouds. The best way I can describe the clouds in XP 12 is that somebody took a random pair of glasses and put it on you, and the glasses don't match your vision, so everything is blurry (I think we have all tried a family member's or friend's pair of glasses before and everything looks blurry when you put it on). But I think LR can't turn up the sharpness of the clouds by much because their rendering engine will struggle if they do, and the FPS will take a big hit. It looks like LR still hasn't refactored and restructured all their code - if they did, XP 12 would run like MSFS 2024. And I think the MSFS team did wonders with MSFS 2020 already, making MSFS 2020 pretty efficient and that's why MSFS 2020 gave such good FPS, especially with frame generation. Which is even more impressive that the MSFS team was able to make MSFS 2024 even more efficient than MSFS 2020! I know that LR is hiring people to make XP 12 look better, seems like they hired Mister X for just that. But without a massive refactoring and restructuring of their engine when they release XP 13, I doubt that XP 13 can catch up to MSFS 2024 graphically. I could be wrong though, I guess we will see. Edited November 30, 20241 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 30, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, GSalden said: Nice screenshots 👌 Unfortunately I will never see them as I am a 738 flyer… Enjoy Even if you are flying airliners, the first thing you will notice when you take off and you land, are the improvement in the trees in MSFS 2024. And also the patches of land as you takeoff and land look much better and more realistic in MSFS 2024. But yes, if you are 30K feet in the air, the difference isn't as drastic between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
November 30, 20241 yr 42 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Yes I know, but as an airliner flyer you say you don't benefit from the improvements down low. However, you do benefit from balance / lighting / cloud improvements. Yes I never said anything else? I'm just waiting for that single sim-time bug to be fixed and for weather to be disconnected with in-sim time. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
November 30, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: How many Terabytes of scenery does XP 12 require to look decent, and at what cost? and how much time. knowledge, frustration & effort required by each individual who only wanted to fly a flight simulator, not learn the nitty-gritty details of a DIY scenery development kit? we owe it to Joerg Neumann's broad and farsighted approach to this hobby. instead of focusing on his private priorities and only on the university doctorate study-level niche aspects, he created a sim for everybody - from total beginners to GA enthusiasts to airline wannabe captains. that's why they earned the funds and can afford to develop this most expensive to create, most fantastic simulator, and ultimately outsold any other flight simulator. circulus virtuosus 😃 Edited November 30, 20241 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
November 30, 20241 yr Oh, no. We get it. I will go to 2024 when my Avro RJ is in the sim. With all the ground, tree, grass mods I have....2020 still looks really good for me. Default, between the two there is no comparison really. 2024 takes the cake? Whatever that saying is. though, I think I will bring over the Comanche or 310 and give some GA airports a whirl again. It is simply beautiful in 2024. Just missing my favorite planes from 2020 still. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
November 30, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, GSalden said: Unfortunately I will never see them as I am a 738 flyer… to quote myself: "for your general aviation eyes only!" AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
November 30, 20241 yr Seriously, guys....why am I not able to see the screenshots in the first post?? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said: How many Terabytes of scenery does XP 12 require to look decent, and at what cost? For RW coverage of the entire world, more like petabytes. I assume XP is destined to stick with computer-drawn artificial scenery forever. Edited November 30, 20241 yr by cobalt
November 30, 20241 yr 27 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: Seriously, guys....why am I not able to see the screenshots in the first post?? Do you have that in-sim target FPS setting enabled?, the sim could be downgrading various visual fidelity settings to maintain the target FPS. Either that or the streaming probs or other bugs some confoundingly experience while others don't. EDIT: sorry, you meant not seeing the pics in this actual post, and not similar quality scenes in-sim 🙂 Edited November 30, 20241 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 30, 20241 yr I do not use anything like that. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 30, 20241 yr 58 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: Default, between the two there is no comparison really. I can recommend a good optician. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
November 30, 20241 yr Author 21 minutes ago, Christopher Low said: why am I not able to see the screenshots in the first post?? https://postimg.cc/Yhg0m0W3 https://postimg.cc/NyNjwr3g https://postimg.cc/rdywb9Yn https://postimg.cc/HcRWr1WR https://postimg.cc/WtqbQzXv https://postimg.cc/v13m5HdS AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
November 30, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, turbomax said: NZMJ Martin's bay - for your general aviation eyes only! is it MS24 or is it Memorex? pebble beach the promised 2024 land my pebbles! and more pebbles pebble beach for a few pebbles more: I left the MSFS2024 menu title and camera menu, otherwise this might look like taken from a Condenast postcard Nice but key assignements live ai traffic blurry textures from far Doesnt work.
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