If you are NOT playing around with DX10 Preview...GET RID OF...

[PhilTaylor 45]

I do not think booting McCrash is the answer, it is not me personally or the Aces dev team that needs anything done here, our collective skins are thick enough. Lets not ok?All I want to point out, without unduly highlighting McCrash or even Sesquashtoo the OP - this sort of negativity does no good.Yes, it is fair to say there are still bugs in the products and ones I personally wanted to fix. Does that really mean the experience is totally flawed and that each and every communication has to go to over the Bridge of Sighs to the Well of Negativity? Does it really mean we dont care?If you get it out of your system in this thread about how RTM or SP1 or SP2 is this, that, and the other thing - are you done? Isnt being an adult partly about having the skillls to get your issue out and move on? Why persist in doing something if it *does not make you happy*? And then complaining about it over and over and over? Isnt that at least as much to blame for the state of affairs on this and other forums as any perceived fault of FSX in any flavor?Is a new view in order? Are not the floodgates of cool and interesting add-ons really starting to come out now, now that with SP2 FSX is in its final state? I see som really cool developments out there, that would not be possible in FS9. Isnt it time to start enjoying the sim and stopping the ranting? Is that never going to be possible?

[bob.bernstein 0]

lol...no need to whisper around me...I've had great success with ATI cards....just this time the overall performance per dollar drove me over to the 8800. I may live to regret it...we'll see.B

[Sesquashtoo 2,846]

>I agree SP2 is not perfect but for me I wouldnt go back. I>look at it this way, it can only get better from here out. I'm>sick of all the complaints about FSX and I say to those if you>can find something better than go for it. Look at how far>Flight Simulator has come. I saw a video somewhere showing the>various stages of how it has PROGRESSED and it sure has come a>long way. I have not seen the opaque window problem at all but>I am only using FSX approved aircraft. The only payware>aircraft I have is the Super80 and the new Carenado Mooney. As>for the blackout issue I do see and I to have a 256 mb card.>How is the reload going Mitch? We havent heard anything yet.-----------------------------------------------------------When I had SP2 running, I also had those black graphic-outages much as I remember my P100 with an ATI Mach64 Turbo card. Dino's still walked the earth back then....I have loaded everything back through back-ups (glad to have 'em,) but still lost time enjoying and still a pain, considering I had it all...lol. I am now back up to running where I was, so yes, you can recover.Thanks for asking. :)Mitch

[Guest]

>Is a new view in order? Are not the floodgates of cool and>interesting add-ons really starting to come out now, now that>with SP2 FSX is in its final state? I see som really cool>developments out there, that would not be possible in FS9. >>Isnt it time to start enjoying the sim and stopping the>ranting? Is that never going to be possible? Amen to that! And yes, it is possible. I bought FTX last week, did some tweaks and right now I am flying above the most beautifull scenery I've ever seen. This is really as real as it gets. And all that without any other addons like FEX or the upcoming REX, which will make things even better. I even fly the default FSX C172, which is one of the best default planes ever. Here are some screenshots, with FSX and FTX 'out of the box' (no sunsets or whatever to spice things up: just the real 'raw' thing), made during a flight between two airports I chose at random, not knowing what I would see outside:http://i32.tinypic.com/2n6f47c.jpghttp://i27.tinypic.com/x8wlg.jpghttp://i30.tinypic.com/2evxoat.jpghttp://i26.tinypic.com/2nk5mye.jpghttp://i30.tinypic.com/20idwdt.jpghttp://i25.tinypic.com/ztsplj.jpghttp://i26.tinypic.com/wkfwgi.jpghttp://i29.tinypic.com/23rtti0.jpghttp://i29.tinypic.com/rutt88.jpghttp://i27.tinypic.com/2heanut.jpghttp://i28.tinypic.com/2z6dsa0.jpgAnd all that with an average fps of 30 to 50 above the beautiful fields and not lower than 20 above dense forests (my system has a problem with huge forests, most people don't have problems with that btw). I have to admit that half a year ago I would not have believed this would be possible, but here I am, with my 1 and two months old system, FSX with SP2 and FTX: in simmers heaven. I can't imagine FS11 will look any better. :(Thanks to Aces for making this possible! :)

[Geofa 108]

Mccrash will be removed for violating the avsim rule of not using his full name in his account(it is stated in the rules that a user will be immediately removed who does not do this). An apology would have been nice, since he already has a history of warnings. He has two more hours.http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

[Guest Nismo35]

Wow JV, those screens are beautiful!! Stupid question, what's FTX? I just ordered UTX and should have it by weeks end. Enjoy!

[Guest JackDanielsDrinker]

You got that straight! I just did a reinstall...it takes awhile.

[Guest JackDanielsDrinker]

Hmmm, I got a 27% improvement in FSXMark average FPS (9.3 to 11.8) when I did a rebuild of FSX. This is with my own settings (pushed up pretty far)--not the FSXMark settings.But then I had a bunch of junk in my FSX.CFG and other config files from endless demoing of aircraft/scenery/other stuff from the file library.EDIT: The improvement came from SP2/Acceleration before the rebuild to SP2/Acceleration after the rebuild. Not from SP1 to SP2.

[PhilTaylor 45]

McCrash, please update your account so you stay and we can dialog.

[PhilTaylor 45]

http://www.orbxsystems.comand yes, those are sweet screenies.

[Mace 1,902]

>lol...no need to whisper around me...I've had great success>with ATI cards....just this time the overall performance per>dollar drove me over to the 8800. I may live to regret>it...we'll see.>>BNah I whispered because I didn't want to post off-topic in Mitch's thread. ;) RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

[Mace 1,902]

>>>>What people should really be mad about is the fact the ACES>>couldn't care less about fixing FSX.>>>>This statement and the sentiment behind it are, in a>microcosm, exactly what is wrong with the community right>now.>Phil, this is not the sentiment of the community. It is the uncivil sentiment of that ONE person. I notice fewer of these types of posts now than 1 year ago. And there is a reason for that...a reason which the moderators would be glad to tell you about.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

[Guest]

For me, there are some bugs that on occasion really do make it not impossible, but at the very least quite difficult to simply enjoy the simulator for what it is. UTX, GEX, FEX, FTX and whatever alphabet soup add-ons out there have made my experience really quite enjoyable for the most part since FSX's release. However, no add-on can fix the inherent bugs that will always be there. For example, sometimes the ATC response list goes blank. Applying AA can be a huge hassle sometimes. Graphical glitches, whether the fault of Nvidia's driver or FSX will always be there (my latest one is in windowed mode and night, looking at the terrain and my FPS plummets).

[tanker 15]

While I agree that there's no need to be uncivil, I do think Phil needs to understand some of the frustration of the users. I received FSX as a Christmas gift and it has taken until yesterday to get it running to an acceptable level with SP1 and SP2 installed. This, after reading literally hundreds of posts and reloading FSX and its updates 3 times. I'm certainly not a PC guru, but I've never had this much difficulty getting a flight simulator to run. Perhaps it's the fault of Nvidia or it may be MS, but it just shouldn't be this difficult.One of my coworkers asked my advice on buying FSX. I started by telling him of the hardware needed, and then thought to tell him if he has a Nvidia video card he will need nHancer and he would need a list of settings, etc,.... I think he gave up before he even started. Likewise I think we are not hearing as many problems because many have simply given up and gone on to other things, which is a shame, because, when it works, it's a very good simulation.Dale

[bob.bernstein 0]

I think that the natural evolution of flight simulation and computer hardware has passed an important magic point....some invisible barrier...At this time in evolution, to provide a generally successful fsx installation you need a systems manager. Someone who understands the sim and the specific computer hardware sufficiently and understands the project management nature of getting the sim to work well on a given system.Now, many of us ARE that systems manager, but not everybody that wants to buy flightsim is able or willing to do that work. And the product marketing doesn't alert potential customers to this need. That statement sounds harsher than I intend it to, I don't know what I'd do differently, but when a customer finds out (by surprise) about the need for skills beyond his/her own, it can cause discontent.That's why you see such different viewpoints.Having studied hardware and simulation for years, I have no problems with fsx. Does that mean Dale is wrong to have struggled? No...because having my experience is not an understood requirement for success.You can argue the historic precedent...whether the context is in simulation or buying commercial software in general. Many of us had work to do to configure fs5 during the days of dos...I don't remember what our problems were, but there were some. Yet the world of commercial game software does not generally presume you need computer skills beyond knowing how to open the drawer of the dvd player.Just some thoughts...Bob