FSLabs review by "Into de Blue..."

[JonathanC]

Thanks for posting the review. Seems like a decent plane which would be amazing in a vacuum, but not now with a lot of competition at various price points. I guess if you are a real pilot practicing procedures you may truly appreciate the systems depth, but I'll stick with the Fenix as a non-real pilot.

[Christopher Low]

Why have they used those "PassMark" scores to determine GPU requirements? My GTX 980Ti stands at 11800, which is significantly above the recommended score. However, 8GB VRAM is apparently the minimum requirement, so the 6GB on the GTX 980Ti does not pass the test

Edited December 18, 2024 by Christopher Low

[Ray Proudfoot]

1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said:

That is weird, almost every addon has integrated the cabin with the cockpit to allow more immersive experience 

Sounds similar to the *Marilake display in P3Dv5 Concorde. Different sim of course. You have to go to external view and then move the viewpoint back inside the fuselage and then position the “camera” to view the Marilake display.

It had to be done that way due to the number of objects in the internal view. All a bit technical I’m afraid.

* for the uninitiated the Marilake display showed passengers the Mach Number, altitude, MPH and Distance to go. Many pax had their photo taken near it.

[omarsmak30]

51 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

I guess if you are a real pilot practicing procedures you may truly appreciate the systems depth

Well Fenix as well is truly in system depth 😅 

[omarsmak30]

13 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Sounds similar to the *Marilake display in P3Dv5 Concorde. Different sim of course. You have to go to external view and then move the viewpoint back inside the fuselage and then position the “camera” to view the Marilake display.

Ah I see, yeah maybe they had this assumption at first, like MSFS is similar to P3D in this regards, good they are working on improving that, though this would be a con for them since almost every high fidelity airplane includes a high quality cabin integrated with the cockpit (even the defaults from iniBuild) 

[JonathanC]

10 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

Well Fenix as well is truly in system depth 😅 

Yeah, but apparently FSLabs is a bit more? I don't know, I'm not a pilot so these details are way overkill for me. What I do know is that I dont' need to worry about FSLabs being a LOT better, or that I'm missing out on something good. 

[speedyTC]

1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said:

$69.95 (only A321)

https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/a321-ceo-msfs/#buy321

That includes both offensive initials not allowed and sharklets as well as both IAE and CFM engine options.

[Bobsk8]

23 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

Yeah, but apparently FSLabs is a bit more? I don't know, I'm not a pilot so these details are way overkill for me. What I do know is that I dont' need to worry about FSLabs being a LOT better, or that I'm missing out on something good. 

I would be interested in knowing what "a bit more" actually is. I would think the Fenix has pretty much everything, including a cabin. 

[speedyTC]

1 hour ago, omarsmak30 said:

$69.95 (only A321)

https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/a321-ceo-msfs/#buy321

That includes both (offensive initials not allowed - LMFAO) wingtip fences (for Pete's sake Avsim!) and sharklets as well as both IAE and CFM engine options, if I am not mistaken.

Edited December 18, 2024 by speedyTC

[micstatic]

Fenix has been a joy to me.  While I always appreciate competition, I have decided that I will give FSL a shot when their NEO is released.  

[Ray Proudfoot]

48 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

since almost every high fidelity airplane includes a high quality cabin integrated with the cockpit (even the defaults from iniBuild) 

The cabin of Concorde is nothing special given it’s a 64-bit sim. I think there may have been restrictions on making the Marilake view an internal one because of the complexity of the flight engineer’s panel where every button, knob and switch performs a function.

It’s disabled by default and only recommended if you have a graphics card with 16Gb or more of VRAM.

[JonathanC]

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I would be interested in knowing what "a bit more" actually is. I would think the Fenix has pretty much everything, including a cabin. 

I think you need to be a real world pilot to truly appreciate the differences here. It's all about systems depth and I (and presumably you) simply don't have the real deep knowledge of this plane to understand it properly. 

[Bobsk8]

50 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

I think you need to be a real world pilot to truly appreciate the differences here. It's all about systems depth and I (and presumably you) simply don't have the real deep knowledge of this plane to understand it properly. 

That's a good non-answer.

[JonathanC]

5 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

That's a good non-answer.

OK, do you think you are entitled to me doing hours of research for you to give you an answer? I'm not the developer, I don't owe you an answer to this or any question! 

Go figure it out for yourself, and come back and enlighten us all. I'm kinda done with your constant barrage of negativity. 

[JBDB-MD80]

1 hour ago, JonathanC said:

I think you need to be a real world pilot to truly appreciate the differences here. It's all about systems depth and I (and presumably you) simply don't have the real deep knowledge of this plane to understand it properly. 

So does the 99.50% flight simmers out there that have no clue what the RWP's are even demonstrating but pretend they know. FSL released is a superb product for MSFS but for what reason? Claim superiority  over the Fenix (after years of development time) in who makes the best airbus? Lets just hope it was for another reason though cause its not going to generate the sales they believe they can.

These are entertainment products after all and of no real use for real world training but people can believe what they want. Its a sub 100$ addon trying to mimic the real thing.

BTW Into the Blue gave a honest review and it was good to see.

Edited December 19, 2024 by JBDB-MD80