I haven't tried 2024 because I have been traveling (I typical fly 2020 a few hours a day when home) - I fly back home tomorrow but I doubt I will purchase 2024 on arrival which had been my plan.

The whole building a pilot avatar choosing your hair and bling and game user interface is a BIG turn off for me, and I already totally love 2020, it looks real to my eyes!

I hope Parallel 42 (or someone else) builds a 2024 Stripr product that focuses on free-flight user interface and does away with the gamification like walk-around etc.

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by mfahey
Typos!

Was super excited for 2024, now super deflated and hardly ever use it.  I appreciate what we have in 2020 far more now though.  

I did a flight across the USA today in 2020 in my Concorde. The skies were packed with multiplayer users. FS2020 is far from dead. If anything, it looks like all the casual xboxers have moved over to 2024, so the skies are now free of large airport clutter!

9 hours ago, tpete61 said:

Why does it even matter for the umpteenth time who is using which one.

It’s pretty easy to figure this out with all of these new threads we all get to read almost daily.

Go with the one that works best for you.

VR in 2024 works very well for me!

Suit yourself 2024 is the future.

Because Asobo looks at these forums and this is a poll among other data that they look at to further motivate them to clean up the problems in 2024...🤨  You can have thread after thread but a quick visual representation that your release is a failure is when the majority stay on the previous version.  For those like myself that don't have time to read threads daily I wanted to see the pulse of the community here on Avsim with hard data.

I am at 2020. Right this morning I tried my luck at 2024 from HECA to VABB. But....right after takeoff.......Memory Error.....with my 4090, AMD 7900 X3D.

My bad....should not have tried it.....MSFS2024 has bad VRAM management atm. 

I will try again in January.

But I am a bit sad though because I charged EUR 240,- for this "game" in this catastophic state it is! And it is the second time in a row that Microsoft delivered such a bad software! Yes I know....after weeks or months it is getting better. But then I expect MS to make clear announcement of the state of the software.

This is bad management and communication!

 Just my opinion....everyone else may have other opinions and experiences!

Marcus

16 hours ago, Fielder said:

 

I use Pimax Crystal Light which takes horsepower to run. It works extremely well for me in VR in 2024. Not as many fps as 2020 though. But still, not a problem.  I have a better cpu, but a worse gpu (only has 12 GB ram and so forth). I get 40 or so fps.

But can't get 40 with TAA, only DLSS.

Thanks. 👍

I don't need (or want) to go backwards with the compromise of using DLSS.  2024 should out do 2020 on all fronts and I believe it will in time but right now settling for lower graphics and performance just to use this new sim, I'll pass (plus I have some favorite add-ons that aren't compatible yet).  When we had issues in 2020 after release there was no reasonable alternative to stay with.  XPlane's global world was laughable compared to 2020 and P3D basically looked like a cartoon by comparison.  Today we have 2020 as an alternative.  If I was flying in 2D I might dive in but I have no interest in the hassle after all the work I put in to get VR to look on par with a 2D monitor display quality wise (the exception being 4K) with silky smooth performance.  I'm still amazed at what I'm seeing now, 2024 should have built on this yet it went backwards. Don't abandon DX11 when DX12 isn't prime time yet. Give people the option to insure a good experience for everyone (with various display hardware)...😏

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by Dillon

7 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

I am at 2020. Right this morning I tried my luck at 2024 from HECA to VABB. But....right after takeoff.......Memory Error.....with my 4090, AMD 7900 X3D.

My bad....should not have tried it.....MSFS2024 has bad VRAM management atm. 

I will try again in January.

But I am a bit sad though because I charged EUR 240,- for this "game" in this catastophic state it is! And it is the second time in a row that Microsoft delivered such a bad software! Yes I know....after weeks or months it is getting better. But then I expect MS to make clear announcement of the state of the software.

This is bad management and communication!

 Just my opinion....everyone else may have other opinions and experiences!

Marcus

There must have been clear marching orders to get this out at a certain date, gold code or not.  Fix it later.  That's why there was no clear beta test time.  We should have had two or three beta versions before release.  The next time you see something like this you know it's going to be 💀 on arrival.  When I saw no real beta versions coming out and feedback going back and forth with the community for fixes and/or problems found, I knew to avoid this initial release like the plague.😳

So this is the 2nd informal poll like this here at Avsim to come up nearly 2:1 with MSFS 2020 users, the Steam numbers consistently show more users on 2020 than 2024, the reviews are still more negative than positive for 2024 even though they are now "mixed"  and yet there are those few here making out like those on 2020 are some sort of freak minority LOL.  For reference, a title with a similar release date on Steam has 98% positive reviews so some dev's can clearly get a release right...  

By all "available" numbers it seems 2020 is "still" the predominant sim and understandably so for all the reasons listed by people in this thread.

Good to know that despite what I've been told and read here repeatedly I am not some sort of laggard using a dead sim and I may as well be on FS9 LOL..  Yep, 2020 users are no different than FSX and FS9 users to 2024 users and people don't feel "sorry" for us if it doesn't work...  (actual comment here)    

So I am really curious where this "clear majority" of 2024 users actually are...  There is no quantifiable data to actually back that claim up and all of the available data actually points to the opposite.  

2024 will gain popularity once devs modify and release 2024 versions of their products.

Based on my experience with 2024, that's all that's holding me back.

13 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

2024 will gain popularity once devs modify and release 2024 versions of their products.

Based on my experience with 2024, that's all that's holding me back.

It took a lot of really engrossed P3D users 12-24 months to move over to 2020 but if the streaming proves to work at scale without issue and the addons all start to come in the next 6-12 months I think you will see a lot of people start to move over.  I've said it multiple times but I don't think it will take 2024 as long to get to parity as it did 2020... 

Haven't touched 2020 since November 18th. Exclusively running 2024 now.

still using ms2020, and chuckling to my self everytime i see these topics.  People have learned nothing about pay to beta rubbish over the last 10 to 15 years.

Double post. 

 

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by Ricardo41

7 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

As I said, I see no reason to return to MSFS 2020.  I vastly prefer the 2024 GUI to the one in 2020.

The control scheme is very powerful, once you've gotten the hang of it (plenty of youtube videos explaining everything. 

MSFS 2020 to me is like a smelly old pair of sneakers. 

 

 

When MSFS2028 comes along we can do this all again and the same people who would currently rather stick pins in their eyes than try 2024 will be furious at how people are proclaiming that 2028 is much better. Some people just don't like change. If we had gone from FSX to MSFS2020 overnight without all the junk sims in between, the same outrage and sense of heinous personal insult would have been shown by the same people.