46 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

What I mean about 2024 is that free flight is the only form of activity I care for. Not interested in any kind of role playing so no career mode or similar. And I have tried a few airliners but the issue for me at the moment is level of object popping that goes on in 2024. Objects, particularly at airports, don't show up until you're practically on top of them, and disappear equally quickly as you go past them. I dare say that may not bother those of you that are concentrating on flying the aircraft but for me it makes most of the big airports I've gone near a no-go proposition. Once they've got that fixed I'll use the big iron a bit more.

You can probably tweak your graphics settings.

For starters, check to see if you have Dynamic FPS on. It's on by default, so almost everybody has it on and they don't even know it. Dynamic FPS has a target FPS set and if your target FPS is not being met, MSFS 2024 will degrade your graphics, including not showing any objects until you are closer to them.  If your Dynamic FPS is on, turn it off, or at least lower your target FPS.  The con with turning Dynamic FPS off is that you may start to stutter, but that's a symptom that your hardware isn't strong enough for the graphics settings you have chosen for MSFS 2024.

If you did turn Dynamic FPS off, there is a setting which shows objects on the ground. I think it's the Object LOD setting but it might be something else. You can try cranking that up.

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

3 hours ago, andy1252 said:

Oh, I like the different aircraft just fine. Probably got between 200 - 300 aircraft in 2020, and similar (or more) in all my previous sims. Cost me a fortune over the years. I love to move around my fake world in them. But I have no interest in pretending to actually control them, in the procedural sense. Ctrl-e, pedals, throttle and stick and I'm happy. I just want to get in the air and go exploring. I rarely go above 4000 feet even in a 777 because what's the point? I'm always outside looking at the plane with a big tube. You're right, the cockpit has about as much attraction for me as a proctologist's table. I'm happy to pretend to sit in a cockpit of something like a Cessna, for a short spell anyway, but not a tubeliner.

Makes sense 🙂 I’m a bit similar in that I quickly get bored with airliner flights at FL350 etc. Recently I’ve started the Fenix on the runway and just spent a few minutes of cockpit preparation to get airborne ASAP. On these sightseeing flights, I don’t fly higher than I need to. 

But for going really low (and relatively slow), I take the Bonanza or a similar GA aircraft. I don’t have much patience for anything slower. 

Btw sorry about the reference to Google Earth etc, it was meant to be a joke, but in hindsight it was unnecessary.

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

You can probably tweak your graphics settings.

For starters, check to see if you have Dynamic FPS on. It's on by default, so almost everybody has it on and they don't even know it. Dynamic FPS has a target FPS set and if your target FPS is not being met, MSFS 2024 will degrade your graphics, including not showing any objects until you are closer to them.  If your Dynamic FPS is on, turn it off, or at least lower your target FPS.  The con with turning Dynamic FPS off is that you may start to stutter, but that's a symptom that your hardware isn't strong enough for the graphics settings you have chosen for MSFS 2024.

If you did turn Dynamic FPS off, there is a setting which shows objects on the ground. I think it's the Object LOD setting but it might be something else. You can try cranking that up.

I’m not 100% sure, but I don’t think it’ll work. I tried an OLOD of 1000 and the object popping was exactly the same. There could of course be another setting, but I’ve got everything on ultra (well, except for a few settings that are off).

I agree with Andy, the objecting popping at airports is distracting. I wonder why it’s like this in 2024 and not in 2020.

I tried Hawaii shoreline and it was amazing graphic quality

12 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I tried Hawaii shoreline and it was amazing graphic quality

Wow, that looks awesome!

18 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I tried Hawaii shoreline and it was amazing graphic quality

If I casually glanced at this photo quickly and didn't really focus on it and the details , I would think it's a real life photo!

MSFS 2020 has photos like the above which look like real life photos with a casual glance, but it usually requires custom scenery if you are taking a random photo outside the city in the outdoors.  In the outdoors, you can usually quickly tell a photo from MSFS 2020 has some anomalies that give it away that it's not a real life photo.  But in MSFS 2024, the graphics for the outdoors at ground level are looking more and more realistic.  I think by MSFS 2036, we might have a flight sim where we can't tell the difference between a flight simulator and a real life photo 🤣.

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

34 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I agree with Andy, the objecting popping at airports is distracting.

What's your airport traffic setting? Anything below High will give you extreme popups at close distance. With High things look quite steady and fine on my PC. At Medium parked planes will popup within 100 meters or so: very immersion killing.

Edited January 3, 20251 yr by mistolip

Just now, mistolip said:

What's your airport traffic setting? Anything below High will give you extreme popups at close distance. With High things look quite steady and fine on my PC.

I think it’s off. Is that the setting that controls parked aircraft? 

Just now, Cpt_Piett said:

I think it’s off. Is that the setting that controls parked aircraft? 

Yes, plus airport vehicles etc. Unfortunately they simplified the setting in 2024: once you change it to High you will not only see more parked planes etc. but also from a greater distance. You can't set certain things seperately anymore.

I do use BATC but have this option enabled at High anyway because my airports look dead otherwise.

7 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Yes, plus airport vehicles etc. Unfortunately they simplified the setting in 2024: once you change it to High you will not only see more parked planes etc. but also from a greater distance. You can't set certain things seperately anymore.

Didn’t know that, thanks! I use FSHud which is why I set it to off. I’ll try with it on high though, just as an experiment.

It’s unfortunate that they didn’t separate the settings.

4 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Didn’t know that, thanks! I use FSHud which is why I set it to off. I’ll try with it on high though, just as an experiment.

Only problem you may run into is that a default plane will be parked at the same spot as an 'FSHud plane'. I don't really mind because the airports I visit usually are small to medium and hardly have any traffic anyway.

On 1/2/2025 at 3:40 AM, abrams_tank said:

This person wasn't using any custom scenery (their comment is "yes to afraid to add anything to it until its more stable" when asked if it's stock scenery), they were just using the default MSFS 2024 scenery, and the person said they were flying off the California coast line:

But that is one of the more impressive videos I have seen of MSFS 2024's capabilities.  And for the MSFS 2020 crowd who claim the graphics of MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 are the same, this video is another example of the huge differences between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024. Without custom scenery, what you see in that video is not possible in MSFS 2020.

Stop it! Your giving me the urge to start spending more time in MSFS2024!

1 hour ago, mistolip said:

What's your airport traffic setting? Anything below High will give you extreme popups at close distance. With High things look quite steady and fine on my PC. At Medium parked planes will popup within 100 meters or so: very immersion killing.

If this is the case, then they need to separate things. So we need to have those ugly planes around to have a decent distance view? Who on earth thought of that?

I've been saying since release 2024 is amazing for low level stuff - I've got right into choppers since its release too.

 

On 1/2/2025 at 2:40 AM, abrams_tank said:

This person wasn't using any custom scenery (their comment is "yes to afraid to add anything to it until its more stable" when asked if it's stock scenery), they were just using the default MSFS 2024 scenery, and the person said they were flying off the California coast line:

But that is one of the more impressive videos I have seen of MSFS 2024's capabilities.  And for the MSFS 2020 crowd who claim the graphics of MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 are the same, this video is another example of the huge differences between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024. Without custom scenery, what you see in that video is not possible in MSFS 2020.

Meanwhile, I can't get an unblurred mess at 30K feet.