January 8, 20251 yr I am looking to improve the visuals of MSFS 2020. I have a 4K 55” OLED TV but for some reason the game looks bland and dull. I understand games don’t look as good on TVs as they do on a good quality monitors. The smallest size monitor I am willing to get is 44” Any suggestions on a high end monitor?
January 8, 20251 yr There is nothing better than a 4K TV, you still have to choose the right one.I use TV Samsung 4K NEO QLED QN90B 43" (990 euros two years ago) -Exceptional image quality, even with sources that are not in 4K (Switch, TV channels, Twitch, etc.) -Very good contrast with deep blacks and strong HDR brightness peaks -Brightness that can withstand rooms bathed in sunlight -Absolutely perfect for gaming, even when connecting a PC -An ergonomic and premium design
January 9, 20251 yr Author 1 hour ago, filou said: There is nothing better than a 4K TV, you still have to choose the right one.I use TV Samsung 4K NEO QLED QN90B 43" (990 euros two years ago) -Exceptional image quality, even with sources that are not in 4K (Switch, TV channels, Twitch, etc.) -Very good contrast with deep blacks and strong HDR brightness peaks -Brightness that can withstand rooms bathed in sunlight -Absolutely perfect for gaming, even when connecting a PC -An ergonomic and premium design Thank you, Filou. I wonder then….why does MSFS look so bad on my Samsung OLED Q60? It does not have HDR so that could be part of the problem. My TV is 4 years old and I think I paid about usd 700. Your conclusion is then that a good 4K OLED TV can be as good as any monitor? I have a RTX 3080, which I think is a crappy card. If I do decide to keep this hobby, I may upgrade to the 5090. I currently running DLSS (quality) native resolution. It looks flurry and boring. I think I am a bit picky when it comes to the resolution. MSFS currently looks awful with my current set up. Overall, my view is MSFS has its limitations as well. Edited January 9, 20251 yr by Huascar
January 9, 20251 yr Moderator 11 hours ago, Huascar said: I am looking to improve the visuals of MSFS 2020. I have a 4K 55” OLED TV but for some reason the game looks bland and dull. I understand games don’t look as good on TVs as they do on a good quality monitors. The smallest size monitor I am willing to get is 44” Any suggestions on a high end monitor? Monitors like my BenQ PD3200U display a very high quality image. But it’s limited to either 30Hz or 60Hz. Also you’ll never get them larger than 32”. If you want to stay at 55” then the first thing to do is ensure it’s setup correctly. This site will help. Run the tests and come back after you’ve made any adjustments. http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 9, 20251 yr 8 hours ago, Huascar said: Thank you, Filou. I wonder then….why does MSFS look so bad on my Samsung OLED Q60? It does not have HDR so that could be part of the problem. My TV is 4 years old and I think I paid about usd 700. Your conclusion is then that a good 4K OLED TV can be as good as any monitor? I have a RTX 3080, which I think is a crappy card. If I do decide to keep this hobby, I may upgrade to the 5090. I currently running DLSS (quality) native resolution. It looks flurry and boring. I think I am a bit picky when it comes to the resolution. MSFS currently looks awful with my current set up. Overall, my view is MSFS has its limitations as well. You are welcom. Can you show me your FS setting if you want. All my photos are with Nvidia DLSS (Balance) setting and believe me everything is ok.
January 9, 20251 yr Author 4 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Monitors like my BenQ PD3200U display a very high quality image. But it’s limited to either 30Hz or 60Hz. Also you’ll never get them larger than 32”. If you want to stay at 55” then the first thing to do is ensure it’s setup correctly. This site will help. Run the tests and come back after you’ve made any adjustments. http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ Truly appreciate it. Looking into this now.
January 9, 20251 yr Author 3 hours ago, filou said: You are welcom. Can you show me your FS setting if you want. All my photos are with Nvidia DLSS (Balance) setting and believe me everything is ok.
January 9, 20251 yr Author 4 hours ago, filou said: You are welcom. Can you show me your FS setting if you want. All my photos are with Nvidia DLSS (Balance) setting and believe me everything is ok. Graphics doesn't look as blurry in the sim, but in below pictures it does. It still looks dull and bland.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/202013441@N05/54256395129/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/202013441@N05/54256584225/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/202013441@N05/54256395154/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/202013441@N05/54256386793/in/dateposted-public/ Edited January 9, 20251 yr by Huascar
January 9, 20251 yr Once you have seen an OLED true black you will not want anything else. Raymond Fry.
January 9, 20251 yr If you got some money LG C4 with HDR on and calibrated on Nvidia app and on Windows setup... as an expensive solution. You may try to activate hdr, setup the color in the Nvidia app and activate then hdr in the game. It will be better... Miguel Leandro
January 9, 20251 yr Author 14 minutes ago, Ekim said: If you got some money LG C4 with HDR on and calibrated on Nvidia app and on Windows setup... as an expensive solution. You may try to activate hdr, setup the color in the Nvidia app and activate then hdr in the game. It will be better... How do I know I have a monitor problem?
January 9, 20251 yr Moderator 23 minutes ago, Huascar said: How do I know I have a monitor problem? Those test images I directed you to will tell you. If your display cannot show every graduation of white to black that is one clue. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
January 9, 20251 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Those test images I directed you to will tell you. If your display cannot show every graduation of white to black that is one clue. It does show every graduation. Maybe the TV is a bit old with mere 60hz.
January 9, 20251 yr Author I wonder if upgrading the monitor can improve the quality of the image. Edited January 9, 20251 yr by Huascar
January 9, 20251 yr Moderator 6 minutes ago, Huascar said: I wonder if upgrading the monitor can improve the quality of the image. That looks fine to me. The highest quality displays tend to be monitors, not TVs. The former give you quality, the latter, immersion with their larger displays. IPS displays are the highest quality but most expensive. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
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