I have a Pimax Crystal Light but for about half the money, the Q3 is great. There is no FG in VR and so a series 4000 vid card is not necessary.

This video he did is Q3 on a 3080 (not ti , not super). Predictably he isn't happy with TAA but settles for DLSS Quality. (I also use DLSS Quality on my PCL).

The pancake lenses is giving him a sweet spot all across the screen (better than the lenses on the PCL). But he doesn't have the clarity, color, or contrast that comes with the PCL.

But for not too much money the Q3 will do very well in MSFS 2024. Framerates and lack of stutters will not be an issue.

The Q3 it seems to me, is a good way for anyone to try VR.

 

The Quest 3 absolutely is a great headset for MSFS. I returned a Crystal Light in favour of the Quest 3 as the CL had too many issues.

To me the only thing ruined Quest 3 is that it's streaming only. Everything else is just perfect for its price. Pity and that's reason I bought Pimax Crystal Light. In my case, PCL easily beats Q3 in terms of image clarity and and its sweet spot size is very close to Q3's. 

Yup, if you get a good headset, the Crystal Light is definitely the better option for visuals. I could see nice clarity in the very centre and I really liked the colours. The lenses on my headset were pretty poor though, small sweet spot and terrible chromatic aberration. The Quest 3 lenses were far superior.

How can the Q3 be described as an upgrade from HP Reverb G2 ? I mean it has not better resolution.

The Q3 with 5090 and SSW turned on flying through the skyscrapers. DLSS4.

He starts to get low in the City at 8:00 in.

 

There's something hiding in Central Park...

On 2/22/2025 at 2:41 AM, jfri said:

How can the Q3 be described as an upgrade from HP Reverb G2 ? I mean it has not better resolution

there is a lot more to it than just resolution: HP Reverb G2 uses lightweight, but cheap fresnel lenses, whereas Quest3, Pimax and Pico 4 all use the much bigger and better pancake lenses and hence "virtually" no optical aberration. and they all have bigger sweet spot, and better edge-to-edge clarity.

yes, I had them all. 🤣

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_aberration

Edited February 23, 20251 yr by turbomax

The Pimax Crystal light however, does not use pancake lenses. They use expensive glass lenses with give much higher PPD for razor-sharp vision than pancake lenses. Pancake lenses are plastic lenses (polycarbonate) cemented together into a pancake. They offer sharpness out to the edges of the screen and the ones in the Q3 were perhaps the best lenses in any popular VR headset. But the clarity inside the wide sweet spot of the PCL is way above the pancake lenses in the Q3. Pimax is all about high PPD. And the screen on the PCL is much better and more expensive than on the Q3. This makes for deep bright colors.

The best consumer headset all things considered might be the new Meganex Superlight which does indeed have pancake lenses. And now probably the best lenses of any headset. Their first run is sold out but a combination of headset and wire are still available. They also require one base station (such as the one sold by Steam for the Valve.

As for me I continue to love my PCL (I used to have a HP Reverb).

 

 

 

The G2 uses fresnel lenses, not pancake. Back before MS Windows flightsims, in the DOS days, rectangular fresnel lense sheets were sometimes used to produce 3D flightsimming. And were all the rage on avsim. No headset was required. The plastic fresnel sheet was attached (scotch tape) to the monitor at the horizontal dividing line between the "cockpit" and the window. Along the line seen here. The cockpit was brought forward in space close to your face.

FS4 DOS

1 hour ago, Fielder said:

rectangular fresnel lense sheets were sometimes used to produce 3D flightsimming.

fascinating pseudo 3D at best, but still only 2D, because only a single monitor was used. but the best we had back then in the FS9 days. "Collimated" displays .

"A fresnel lens provides an immersive effect that cannot be observed with the video. You are drawn into the images as they appear lifelike with depth. This is possible because fresnel lenses focus to infinity fooling your senses into thinking the image is far away. "

 

 

 

fresnel lens "VR" 25 years ago:

 

https://soarbywire.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/e50a2-mosaic-collimated-display-system-flight-simulation.pdf

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20071006182400/http://www.rickleephoto.com/rlcoll.htm

 

Edited February 23, 20251 yr by turbomax

Totally unrelated to flight sim, but recently I found it's a lot of fun watching Netflix in Q3 to relax. It can only be done on Netflix website, but the video quality is pretty good (1080p?). I plugin my own headphone so the sound becomes decent too. I have a good true 4K projector and full set of of speakers, but this Q3 thing is just so convenient. Glad that I kept the Q3. For MSFS, it's all Pimax Crystal Light. 

Also, Q3 video passthrough is getting impressively good. The color, exposure, geometry and latency of passthrough video all are almost perfect. This is actually mind blowing at its price point.

27 minutes ago, FlyIce said:

I have a good ... 4K projector ..., but this Q3 thing is just so convenient

me too, but does it feel comfortable to watch a 90 minute movie with a headset on?

I watched a few movies from the beginning to the end, yeah, it's comfortable enough, no problem at all. The built-in battery though is barely enough for 2 hour videos. With external battery not much problem. 

The best video quality still is by VirtualDesktop streaming from my flight sim PC, but you can't watch DMR-protected videos like those from Netflix, only Youtube videos. 

 

Edited February 24, 20251 yr by FlyIce

 

My 2cents of how to get better clarity and performance unst Quest2 and Quest3 ( Fs20 Fs24 )