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This convinced me that MSFS is more than just a game

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19 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

There is the point.  Johnny flying into buildings and crashing into water buffalo on his console, is playing a game.  The guy with the full cockpit in his house is flying a simulator.  What would you describe a level D sim doing a loop in a 737 - a game?

Post that MSFS is just a game with pretty pictures, and you deserve what you get.

Who cares what people do and what people call it.  I'm one of the the guys with a full cockpit I spent THOUSANDS on, use it only for realistic airline ops, simulate only planes that are compatible with my hardware and could care less if someone else calls it a game.  

I don't even know who posted that, what exactly do they deserve?  LOL

 

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13 hours ago, cianpars said:

Where does he do his cooking and washing up?

First class lounge....

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1 hour ago, psolk said:

could care less if someone else c

Couldn’t * 

Grinds on me that one. 

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12 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Here they come.  I wonder why certain people get ruffled by the word simulator?

Its a game , you get it on Games Pass or Steam and you play it on Xbox GAMING console or PC = Simulated Flight Game

GTA 5 = Simulated open world Game

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13 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Here they come.  I wonder why certain people get ruffled by the word simulator?

No its the certain people that get rattled by the word GAME they cant accept the truth

Jason Richards

 

 

 

10 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I can beat your attempt at including the word game in a single paragraph.

That GAME is a very, very cool GAME, amazing to see how someone used a GAME to create something so GAMEY for what is ultimately a GAME on a GAMING computer. Puts my dedicated GAMING RIG for my GAMES to shame that's for sure, but I love all sorts of GAMES including Flight GAMEY GAMES, yay for GAMING!

However, I think it much better to state, 'MSFS Flight Simulator is quite capable of enabling a very complex and realistic simulator to be created by the home user, that in many ways replicates how real pilots train - even to the extent of using real world navigation data and checklists'.

 

Yes! And even when it was a simulator, the Microsoft Project Budget is probably still for a GAME.

🙂

It's indeed so funny how allergic some react on the word game. 

The thing is....a real Airline Simulator were pilots are trained in looks more gamey then MSFS2020 MSFS2024 AND EVEN P3D! 

They don't care about how the world looks.....they concentrate on flows, checks and Fly!

 

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11 hours ago, jason74 said:

Its a game , you get it on Games Pass or Steam and you play it on Xbox GAMING console or PC = Simulated Flight Game

GTA 5 = Simulated open world Game

Yet you include the phrase 'simulated Flight'!

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11 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Couldn’t * 

Grinds on me that one. 

Yes, my mum who was a grammar teacher in Yorkshire before coming to the States would NOT be pleased with me 😉 

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4 hours ago, mpo910 said:

They don't care about how the world looks.....they concentrate on flows, checks and Fly!

The exact same checklists and flows one can use in MSFS Flight Simulator.  I don't have a problem with the word game, only when someone insists MSFS is not a simulator, which it clearly is.

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7 hours ago, jason74 said:

No its the certain people that get rattled by the word GAME they cant accept the truth

I can accept the word game. However, I respond when someone says MSFS Flight Simulator isn't a simulator, which it clearly is.

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There is a simple analogy for those insisting that much on the word „game“:

A camping-van is a vehicle, like a car is. So technically they are both parts of vehicles. Now you can tell your friends you used your „vehicle“ to go visitting some nice places when you were using your camping-van. Everyone will think you meant your car when in fact you used your van and lived in it. This purpose sets them apart from a car which most people will understand as „vehicle“.

So it doesn‘t make sense to call your van a vehicle rather than a camping-car (=what it is).

So I don‘t get why some are stucked on calling a sim a game, although technically speaking they are part of video-games. Are they afraid of calling it a sim because they envy those using it as a sim?

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24 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I can accept the word game. However, I respond when someone says MSFS Flight Simulator isn't a simulator, which it clearly is.

What does the word game or simulator actually change on your "product" you use?

Nothing or?

Why spending time trying to convince someone who says the product isn't a sim.....?

Actually...it does not affect your product or the product at all....code = code.....a name is just a name....a word is just a summary of letters

🙂

But I respect your investment...

Happy flying and enjoy as much as possible 

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11 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

There is a simple analogy for those insisting that much on the word „game“:

A camping-van is a vehicle, like a car is. So technically they are both parts of vehicles. Now you can tell your friends you used your „vehicle“ to go visitting some nice places when you were using your camping-van. Everyone will think you meant your car when in fact you used your van and lived in it. This purpose sets them apart from a car which most people will understand as „vehicle“.

So it doesn‘t make sense to call your van a vehicle rather than a camping-car (=what it is).

So I don‘t get why some are stucked on calling a sim a game, although technically speaking they are part of video-games. Are they afraid of calling it a sim because they envy those using it as a sim?

Those who react "feel emotionally" downgraded the usage of their "sim" to a "game" and that downgrade, as they see it, does "hurt their ego". 

They want be like pilots simming

Not like gamers gaming. 

But in the industries wording....they just play a game...

As I do.....i go play my msfs now...and enjoy pretending I am a pilot

 

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1 minute ago, mpo910 said:

Aquellos que reaccionan "se sienten emocionalmente" degradan el uso de su "sim" a un "juego" y esa degradación, como ellos lo ven, "hiere su ego". 

Quieren ser como pilotos que hacen simulacros

No como los jugadores que juegan. 

Pero yo soy la industria... ellos sólo juegan un juego...

Como hago... ahora voy a jugar a mis msfs... y disfruto fingiendo que soy un piloto.

It's a role-playing game in your case hehehehe 

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