Hi,

I've just upgraded to 3.0.14 (I skipped the Beta versions) and now in FS2020 I can see lots of little aircraft at airports which are actually vehicles in the sim. These used to be hidden in previous versions. Is there an easy way to get rid of these please. I've had a look in options but can't see anything obvious.

Thanks

Edited February 16, 20251 yr by ScottOrange
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Ok. Actually I tested this a lot and saw no ground vehicles. No idea what's going on there. Some see no ships and others see ground vehicles although I filter these out.🤷‍♂️

I'll have a look at this. All these MSFS simulators are a real mess.🤕

Alex

Best workaround for now is to disable AI in menu "View" or in the connection dialog window.
Also try LNM options on page "Map Display" and make sure that "Hide aircraft on ground" is checked.

Alex

I have the same problem. All ground vehicles, a mix of default Asobo and GSX objects, baggage trucks, pushbacks tugs, etc. all being displayed as aircraft icons that move. Turning off the display AI aircraft option gets rid of them but also removes all legitimate AI aircraft traffic.

I have now reverted to the previous Little Navmap version and everything works correctly in MSFS 2020. 

 

1 hour ago, Downed_Aviator said:

I have now reverted to the previous Little Navmap version and everything works correctly in MSFS 2020. 

Ok. Good to know. I have no idea what is going on there yet. The changes in this code were only minor and the filter is normally only applied only to '24 to suppress ground traffic. Would be curious if this happens only with GSX.

Alex

I have exactly the same issue as Downed_Aviator. After upgrading to 3.0.14 from 3.0.12 for MSFS2020, I also see all the ground vehicles, a mix of default Asobo, LVFR, SIMADDONS and others ground AI-objects, like moving stairs, baggage trucks, pushbacks tugs, etc. all being displayed as small aircraft icons that move.

Volker

Very interesting as it appears some GSX object is showing as a GIANT aircraft symbol as shown in this image. My user aircraft is the yellow one.

 

12 hours ago, volkand said:

I have exactly the same issue as Downed_Aviator. After upgrading to 3.0.14 from 3.0.12 for MSFS2020, I also see all the ground vehicles, a mix of default Asobo, LVFR, SIMADDONS and others ground AI-objects, like moving stairs, baggage trucks, pushbacks tugs, etc. all being displayed as small aircraft icons that move.

Working on it. No idea yet what's going on there.

11 hours ago, somiller said:

Very interesting as it appears some GSX object is showing as a GIANT aircraft symbol as shown in this image. My user aircraft is the yellow one.

Strange. This means the GSX and/or SimConnect pass the ground vehicles as type "Aircraft".

Alex

I also switched back to V3.0.12 today, and everything works fine again.

Just now, volkand said:

I also switched back to V3.0.12 today, and everything works fine again.

I just tested my next release candidate with the filter disabled and it's all working as expected here. I see ships in both simulators (2020 and 2024) and no ground vehicles in both. I also added more information and logging to catch the wrong vehicles if any appear. Still need some time to test.

Alex

On 2/17/2025 at 1:17 AM, somiller said:

object is showing as a GIANT aircraft symbol as shown in this image. My user aircraft is the yellow one.

I saw the same thing also.

14 hours ago, albar965 said:

Strange. This means the GSX and/or SimConnect pass the ground vehicles as type "Aircraft".

It is not only GSX objects, it is any ground vehicle from any source from what I have seen. I am not aware that the default Asobo generated ground traffic is using SimConnect. I could be wrong as I am not a developer.

10 hours ago, Downed_Aviator said:

It is not only GSX objects, it is any ground vehicle from any source from what I have seen. I am not aware that the default Asobo generated ground traffic is using SimConnect. I could be wrong as I am not a developer.

I could not reproduce this with my new release candidate where all filters are removed here but I'm also testing with the MSFS 2024 beta. MSFS 2020 never showed ground vehicles for me.

Next LNM RC has more logging to find the wrong vehicles so I can zap them. 🙃

Alex

I also have the same issue of seeing planes in LNM map (3.0.14) for which are actually vehicles in the sim (FS2020).

Reverted to LNM 3.0.12 and everything is correct again.

Regards.

FSullivan.

 

Hi Alex,  please take your time. I really appreciate your hard work.

The MSFS2020 (MSFS3024 seems to be even worse) AI-Traffic is stumbling since the beginning. FSX an P3D were far better.

Currently I've integrated >6000 additional AI aircraft to MSFS2020, which are injected by FSLTL. Your tool - is besides creating my flight plans for airliners, GA and even gliders - great to test the injection of new aircraft added to the AI fleet.

Best Regards, Volker