1 hour ago, MikeV1 said:

it’s about whether PMDG should rush out a quick fix for compatibility rather than maintaining their usual standards.

So what would be the difference between a compatability patch and PMDG maintaing their standards? 

I'm a little confused how you and @sloppysmusic would just to the assumption that integrity would be lost by PMDG for making a compatability patch. A compatability patch is just that, making the product compatabible on a platform which includes the aircraft functioning as it would on a previous platform. Would PMDG's standards be lost by doing this?

3 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

My guess is they have made their quota $$$ on the line up of the 737 series and will get back to it when time permits. They are "All In" on releasing new products in which I see nothing wrong with that, but in the sake of 737 lovers being neglected on new updates. It is what it is I guess but in reality updates don't bring them new income at all.

 

Then why are they focusing on getting the DC 6 out for 2024? It's not 'new' and would not add to their income and seems a rather niche aircraft. What I think is going to happen since reading that post again is they are going to redesign the 737 and charge full price for it.

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Still a bit too early to speak authoritatively on this product's life-cycle moving into MSFS 2024.

life-cycle to me means it has an end date. Perfect time to remake it and charge folks again with no upgrade option. I'm calling it now lol.

If the DC-6 is made fully FS24 compatible, then I'll be happy. The 737-700 can come as and when.

14 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

Then why are they focusing on getting the DC 6 out for 2024? It's not 'new' and would not add to their income and seems a rather niche aircraft. What I think is going to happen since reading that post again is they are going to redesign the 737 and charge full price for it.

The DC6 is no more sophisticated than the C172.  I would imagine it's a fairly easy effort. I don't think they're going to make it compatible with all the features 2024 offers but just be able to fly it reliably in the sim is enough for me personally. 

For the 737; they have been talking about a major update involving cockpit textures, 2024's career mode, etc. I very much doubt that would involve charging full price to existing owners again but once again, personally, I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable upgrade fee to be able to use a fully-featured plane in 2024.

8 hours ago, MikeH99 said:

Only reason they're doing this due to the A350. But good to see. Loving the A350.

They said back in December it would be a free update, has nothing to do with the A350.

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I hope this new sound pack is top notch. Looking fwd to that and some UAL 200ER ops out of SFO and DEN. 

3 hours ago, Lucky38i said:

I'm a little confused how you and @sloppysmusic would just to the assumption that integrity would be lost by PMDG for making a compatability patch. A compatability patch is just that, making the product compatabible on a platform

I don’t assume that. I was just correcting the poster with what the other guys thoughts were.

Is the criticism of the 777 sounds related more to external viewpoints (or any location that is not in the cockpit)? I am quite happy with the sounds in the VC of the 777F.

4 hours ago, Lucky38i said:

Would PMDG's standards be lost by doing this? 

Yes. There's the quick way of doing things and the right way. 

35 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Yes. There's the quick way of doing things and the right way. 

I think you’re focusing too much on the semantics of quick and less on the subject, a compatibility patch.

People want to fly the 737 in FS24, a compatibility patch fulfils that want whilst the same people can wait for an upgraded FS24 variant.

This is a practice done by a few devs that offer users this flexibility.

Patch or upgrade, the aircraft will remain functionally the same and in no way intrudes on the standards that PMDG is known for. Honestly I struggle to see how it would.

1 hour ago, Lucky38i said:

People want to fly the 737 in FS24, a compatibility patch fulfils that want whilst the same people can wait for an upgraded FS24 variant.

Exactly, we’re better off to have the functionality that exists in FS20 in FS24 sooner rather than waiting months (years?) to get an enhanced 737 in FS24.

 

Has anyone seen PMDG say that they are going to do a compatibility patch? I understood they are going to do a feature-update to the 737 for 2024 and then release it as a paid upgrade.

2 hours ago, Cognita said:

Has anyone seen PMDG say that they are going to do a compatibility patch? I understood they are going to do a feature-update to the 737 for 2024 and then release it as a paid upgrade.

You understood correctly.  The price might not be that of a new aircraft but the MSFS2024 version of the B737 series will not be free.

4 hours ago, Cognita said:

Has anyone seen PMDG say that they are going to do a compatibility patch? I understood they are going to do a feature-update to the 737 for 2024 and then release it as a paid upgrade.

They really haven't said much of anything in terms of what their actual plans are. That's the only frustrating thing (though I use that term loosely for me personally) about the updates. They very well could do a free compatibility update and then do a feature rich update later. They have not stated one way or the other. I believe it's because they need more time to dive in to their code to see how much of a task it would be. I would imagine that they may have some idea as to what it would take at this point due to their development of the 777, but I'm not a developer so I'm just spit balling.

14 minutes ago, Kevin_28 said:

They really haven't said much of anything in terms of what their actual plans are.

Back in mid-January, Robert said this, which is what led me to believe there is no plan for a simple compatibility update, but rather they are planning a paid update for 2024:

"The 737 is getting a major overhaul in preparation for its introduction into MSFS 2024. This overhaul will include new sim platform features such as walk-arounds, career mode features, upgraded textures, new models, a brand new cabin (with a working cockpit door, finally!) enhanced gameplay features and interactivity within the cabin environment, as well as a brand new sound environment built upon new, high fidelity recordings, with numerous new embedded code structures to enhance the entire sound experience and bring greater realism to the entire simming experience. Expect the 737 for MSFS 2024 to release after the 777s. This package will be available in 2024 with a small upgrade charge for previous MSFS 2020 owners, as previously discussed in other posts on the topic. (Small...you won't be repurchasing if you already own it.)"