1 minute ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Agree.

Just to clarify for the folks who might not know, the FF A350 in X-Plane is basically a 10 YEAR old addon from XP version 10 that's only had a couple minor improvements in all that time. Whereas the iniBuilds A350 is a brand new State of the Art addon.

Just to clarify that 10 years separating core addon builds is a looooooong time 🙂

It might be more reasonable to compare something like the FF B777 or the Toliss A330, both of which are very new addons still in active development like the iB A350 is.

(just to be clear, this is non-judgmental in re sims or developers! 🙂 )

Yes, mind you... I think their 757 and 767 are actually better quality than the A350 (FF that is...) At least visually and mostly systems. There are still some issues that randomly occur that are bugs (usually related to weird startup abnormalities, like bleed malfunctioning for engine start (which is a pain cause it requires me to restart the flight and program the FMS all over again), so I hope those two receive some love and care at some point soon (I think FF has implied they are planning to update those). I have yet to buy their 777, that will be next. I have a lot of XP12 aircraft to buy - MD80, MD11, 777, the Toliss A330. 

40 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Your trees are getting in the way of your forest. 🙂

What does this nonsense have to do with the point I was making? How would the flight model of a Beluga tell me anything about an A350? How would the flight model of an A320 tell me anything about an A380? How would the flight model of a B737 tell me anything about a B787? Seems you are still missing the point I made.

I was generally referring to the apparent absence of inertia from most airliners in MSFS 2024, to which the A350 is certainly not an exception.

OTOH, in X-Plane 12 the bigger airliners, including the default A330, but also the A300-600 and the Beluga, which being smaller than a 359 are still big airliners, do exhibit, both while maneuvering on ground and while flying, a feel of inertia which, IMO, is more realistic.

My experience with these aircraft IRL is, OFC, NULL, with the exception of a TAP A320 simulator session of 1 hr, during which I had the chance to make three takeoffs and 4 landings, under different setups (weather and Gross Weight). Although it's a FBW, I really got the sensation that it still felt "big" and reponded pretty much like what I gathered from the jumpseat rides in 737-200/300, 767-200 and L-1011-500 I had the chance to experience.

All aircraft, being it smaller GA or big airliners feel "loose" in as far as the "feel of inertia" goes, in MSFS. That was my point.

Edited April 5, 20251 yr by jcomm

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

I was generally referring to the apparent absence of inertia from most airliners in MSFS 2024, to which the A350 is certainly not an exception.

In your original post, it sounded like you were saying you wished the 350 felt more like the Beluga/A310, which didn't make sense to me because they are entirely different planes. You have since clarified that you were referring to a specific aspect, not the flight model as a whole. Fair enough and understood.

Here, their 350 pilot is discussing Inertia. Some users believe the 350 should feel similar to other Airbus models (e.g., A320), a point also discussed here.

 

Here they also mentioned inertia again. I'm not sure if these are the points you're referring to.

 

Will try to watch both videos and report back my thoughts about it. Thanks!

Edited April 5, 20251 yr by jcomm

So, I finally watched both videos.

In a first and unrelated comment I would like to add that I take my hat off to the videos oin their products INIBUILDS produces and publishes, not just this series on their A350 for MSFS 2020 / 2024 but also on their X-Plane addons.

This thread was actually started as a sort of thumbs up regarding their A300-600 and Beluga for X-Plane 12, which I purchased together with their A310. I was disappointed by their decision not to port the 310 to X-Plane 12, and continue supporting the 310, 300 and Beluga, although I can understand their decision, given the small team resources.

Anyway I will link the series of tutorials for the A300-600, remarkably well done and which I am following, again, after 2 years, to learn how to operate the 300 and the Beluga.

Now regarding the videos you kindly linked, I did watch both and I agree they surely are doing their best to recreate the "feel of flight" of the A350 in MSFS, and truth is it became probably my preferred airliner for FS 2024 ( I am still awaiting for further Fenix updates, as well as for PMDG to bring the 777 and the DC-6 in too... as well as the 737! ).

And now, a link to the series of excellent tutorials for the A300 and the Beluga for X-Plane 11 and 12:

 

Edited April 7, 20251 yr by jcomm