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SU2 Beta - weather worst from day to day regarding accuracy

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The most helpful place to "post" issues, of course, is via the official reporting channels for bugs/issues, especially when participating in a beta test.

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  • There's always xplane.

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    The clouds begin to be "those decorative things in the sky." The same with correct real air traffic that, since 2020, has been "promised", but that does not finish arriving. What keeps people ali

  • What drives me nuts is not limited on SU2 but the fact that this WORD NOT ALLOWED snow coverage is again totally bugged. Although it was improved in MSFS2020 after several attempts to let those evergr

Just Flight dropped a new patch for the Hawk T1 yesterday and the TMS T-7A Red Hawk finally made it to the v2024 Marketplace.

So I had to give them a quick function check today. 😁

Weather visuals in my area were distinctly innacurate, with a heavy haze obscuring visibility.

Oh, and to be clear, I'm NOT running the Beta.

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At times my other sim X-Plane 12 has been affected too, as @ryanbatc  mentioned above, and I started noticing this discrepancies last week although yesterday the results at the Canaries were good in Xp12, completely out of sync in FS 2024. Last week there were occasions in which both sims failled grossly though.

Up until last week I hadn't noticed this problem in MSFS, unless when in FS 2020 there were problems with the cloud services. Actually I have always found that MSFS does weather depiction pretty much well indeed.

I am using the European servers. Next time I may try to switch servers to USA and check the results.

This thread, as a side not to @Maxis isn't meant as a "bashing" thread on MSFS, but rather a kind of RFC from other users, while I try to find some rationale for these weather failures in both sims.

One idea that came to my mind was that maybe MSFS is now also using NOAA as a feed for some of the weather data, namely METARs and TAFs, and some problem with that source affecting both MSFS and XP12 (XP12 uses NOAA only AFAIK).

I remember that under similiar "crisis" there were problems with access to their repositories affecting some flight simulation platforms.

I will continue to test it, and I take the chance to ask @Damian Clark if he knows that the problems with SU2 Beta and ASFS have been ironed out? I might install ASFS in the SU2 Beta and use it for comparison with default weather, same applying to Xp12.

 

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The clouds begin to be "those decorative things in the sky." The same with correct real air traffic that, since 2020, has been "promised", but that does not finish arriving.

What keeps people alive is hope. That's why everything is prolonged and we are settling for less and less.

I'm sure that the Asobo team and the developers of msfs and msfs2024 are wonderful people, but I'm also sure that the heads of marketing love to see the forums full of complaints. That keeps the company alive.

20 hours ago, Maxis said:

There's always xplane.

19 hours ago, Maxis said:

 its not that serious.

 Next option is to buy activesky or something.

The issue here is quite simple: something is incorrect and needs fixing. 
 
We want to enhance this software. If people are satisfied or unaware of what is incorrect, they should avoid unproductive discussions and enjoy what they like. However, please don't go in this unprofessional direction and tell people what to use or buy. This attitude is not advantageous for software development. Many years of issues with this ASOBO MSFS have already occurred, and limited progress has been made in many areas that require fixing. 

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1 hour ago, LRBS said:
The issue here is quite simple: something is incorrect and needs fixing. 
 
We want to enhance this software. If people are satisfied or unaware of what is incorrect, they should avoid unproductive discussions and enjoy what they like. However, please don't go in this unprofessional direction and tell people what to use or buy. This attitude is not advantageous for software development. Many years of issues with this ASOBO MSFS have already occurred, and limited progress has been made in many areas that require fixing. 

Coming from you this is hella rich.

perhaps reading the full set of responses would provide you some clarity as to what my aim was. If you couldn’t figure it out already we have nothing further to discuss.

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Running 1.4.12 SU2 beta today and I also noticed that the Live Weather was broken. I flew a flight plan into KPHN and the sim depicted it as sunny, but the METAR and weather radar online said it was overcast and raining. Of course, Active Sky is also broken, so there no alternative for live weather in MSFS 2024.

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On 4/10/2025 at 11:34 PM, jcomm said:

 

I will continue to test it, and I take the chance to ask @Damian Clark if he knows that the problems with SU2 Beta and ASFS have been ironed out? I might install ASFS in the SU2 Beta and use it for comparison with default weather, same applying to Xp12.

To summarize: SU2 UI HTML/JS code is refactored/redone in several aspects and this breaks a few things such as View Listener registration (including Weather Listener), which makes any HTML/JS mod that uses such listeners incompatible with SU2. ASFS and the other weather add-ons are some of several that won't work on SU2 until this is fixed (there are also some internal panels that are broken due to this). The issue has been reported and confirmed/logged, and we are awaiting a fix from MS/Asobo. Given that this breaks backwards compatibility of many things, and Ms/Asobo are pretty good at fixing these kind of issues as they come up, we are very hopeful that this issue will be resolved, hopefully by the next SU2 beta build.

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Publishing about the climate and reporting in official Asobo media is of no use. Asobo is not interested despite the promises they made years ago for 2020.

Yesterday my 2 view pc’s showed different weather in 2024 more than once for the same coördinates.

 

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On 4/10/2025 at 11:16 PM, March Hare said:

The most helpful place to "post" issues, of course, is via the official reporting channels for bugs/issues, especially when participating in a beta test.

Not in my case, I tried those "channels" and ended with my account suspended. Anyway, yesterday I didn't find anything wrong with live weather in Italy flying the PMDG DC6.

Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).

What drives me nuts is not limited on SU2 but the fact that this WORD NOT ALLOWED snow coverage is again totally bugged. Although it was improved in MSFS2020 after several attempts to let those evergrinning guys (Jorg, Seb and Martial) finally understand the issue. And now in 2024? Again just a undefined white blob over the Alps resulting in totally wrong snow coverage in 95% of the area. I could...

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6 hours ago, Damian Clark said:

To summarize: SU2 UI HTML/JS code is refactored/redone in several aspects and this breaks a few things such as View Listener registration (including Weather Listener), which makes any HTML/JS mod that uses such listeners incompatible with SU2. ASFS and the other weather add-ons are some of several that won't work on SU2 until this is fixed (there are also some internal panels that are broken due to this). The issue has been reported and confirmed/logged, and we are awaiting a fix from MS/Asobo. Given that this breaks backwards compatibility of many things, and Ms/Asobo are pretty good at fixing these kind of issues as they come up, we are very hopeful that this issue will be resolved, hopefully by the next SU2 beta build.

Thanks Damian!

Let's hope for the best with the upcoming SU2 beta ... 👍

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15 minutes ago, Mark1616 said:

Live weather clouds seem to alternate between present and 24h ago. Please vote up this bug report: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/live-weather-alternates-between-live-and-24-hours-old/716652

 

Voted ! 

Thank you !

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