12 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

The Cornwall coast looks pretty good to me in MSFS 2020.

Maybe I exaggerated a little for dramatic effect. But I don't think the cliffs at Newquay look very impressive in 2020.

49 minutes ago, Noel said:

<<<That, is always the bases of the XP snobbery I started seeing when 2020 released and I dared to share screenshots on their forum.  Smug, elitist BS.

Xp snobbery??  
too much context missing. 

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I'm certain this has to do with performance as it does in 2020 and 2024--they can't do any better than they currently do and from what I saw it's well behind 2024.

Funny  thing is that on the official MSFS-forum there is a thread going on about clouds and a majority of users seem to prefer the « terrible and blurry » clouds of XP over both 2020 and 2024. And they are literally annoyed that Asobo didn’t catch up. Again, thats just what other are saying. And I have seen some primarly MSFS oriented users switching to XP because of that (seen on facebook-groups and other chanels). Just saying. But you are of course entitled to your opinion.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/4-years-in-and-pretty-much-zero-improvements-to-clouds/637016/1305

1 hour ago, Noel said:

I challenged you to show just ONE video that would make the case and no response, and no wonder.  Go ahead, find one and rather than talk about this SHOW it.

Hahaha why would I? I couldn’t care less what you use Noel. 

Just now, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Hahaha why would I? I couldn’t care less what you use Noel. 

Hahaha, because you can't, that's why. 

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

Xp snobbery??  
too much context missing. 

Just ignore him, he normally turns it in to my sim is better than your sim rubbish because he can’t handle a difference of opinion. He also lives in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks msfs has no pop in of scenery. 

1 minute ago, Noel said:

Hahaha, because you can't, that's why. 

Learn where to draw the line Noel. Last I’ll say to you on this matter. 

On one hand, I am shocked, SHOCKED that as the weather gets nicer both sims see a decrease in use.

3 hours ago, GoranM said:

Len, stop.  Draw a line.  

Goran, stop, get a grip, try and stick to talking about MSFS (or flight sims at the very least) rather than weird diatrebes about who you would or not have beers with 🤣 

15 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

On one hand, I am shocked, SHOCKED that as the weather gets nicer both sims see a decrease in use.

Except they've both been on the decrease since November...oh right yeah southern hemisphere 😆

Just now, MarcG said:

Except they've both been on the decrease since November...oh right yeah southern hemisphere 

I reject your reality, and substitute my own! 🙂 (Adam Savage).

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

He also lives in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks msfs has no pop in of scenery. 

And because YOU have pop-in you assume all others do as well.  Maybe it's bandwidth and streaming content density related, but no I don't have pop-in of scenery of any significance.

1 hour ago, Franz007 said:

Funny  thing is that on the official MSFS-forum there is a thread going on about clouds and a majority of users seem to prefer the « terrible and blurry » clouds of XP over both 2020 and 2024. And they are literally annoyed that Asobo didn’t catch up. Again, thats just what other are saying. And I have seen some primarly MSFS oriented users switching to XP because of that (seen on facebook-groups and other chanels). Just saying. But you are of course entitled to your opinion.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/4-years-in-and-pretty-much-zero-improvements-to-clouds/637016/1305

Thanks for the link I see some good stuff there for sure, some remarkable cloud definition in spots.  I also see a lot of excellent weather/cloud depiction in 2024 currently and in that same thread we had this absolute nonsense posted as an example of 2024 in this guy's posted shot:

Mostly what I get out of these images is that it's possible to create more distinct cloud definition w/ the current voxel based rendering.  Hopefully MS/A will take a close look and I'm certain they would have to be right about now.

 

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by Noel

16 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Goran, stop, get a grip, try and stick to talking about MSFS (or flight sims at the very least) rather than weird diatrebes about who you would or not have beers with 🤣 

What's wrong with you, Len?  Accept the fact that your opinion isn't the be all and end all.  That it's just another opinion among the thousands of others, with equal value.  Accept the fact that people will disagree with you.  Practise humility.  

Know when to stop.  Seriously, it's people like you that perpetuate the toxicity among folks who just want to enjoy flight simming, without being married to it.

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by GoranM

44 minutes ago, GoranM said:

What's wrong with you, Len?  Accept the fact that your opinion isn't the be all and end all.  Accept the fact that people will disagree with you.  

Know when to stop.  Seriously, it's people like you that perpetuate the toxicity among folks who just want to enjoy flight simming, without being married to it.

What's wrong with you, Goran? Why do you keep digressing into these who's right who's wrong and personal character analysis sidetracking?

And please stop making up stuff, nowhere did I say my opinion is the be all and end all. We're not even discussing opinions. You claimed certain things, like Biology helping MS/Asobo with clouds.. that was wrong. Then you claimed 2024's lighting is not physics based, where is your evidence? (It is photometric, quite physics based I'd say).

Rather ironic you mention toxicity, look in the mirror :)

 

Edited April 16, 20251 yr by lwt1971

1 minute ago, lwt1971 said:

What's wrong with you, Goran? Why do you keep digressing into these who's right who's wrong and personal character analysis sidetracking?

 

And please stop making up stuff, nowhere did I say my opinion is the be all and end all. You claimed certain things, like Biology helping MS/Asobo with clouds.. that was wrong. Then you claimed 2024's lighting is not physics based, where is your evidence? (It is photometric, quite physics based I'd say).

Rather ironic you mention toxicity, look in the mirror :)

 

Give it a rest man. Same applies to @Noel