12 hours ago, toby23 said:

Just to note that the sim needs to be restarted for any changes to take effect, such as setting Sea Traffic to Off or Photogrammetry to Off... GAIST works fine with Sea Traffic set to Off but Seafront Simulations requires at least Low but this will then display Asobo default Sea Traffic as well, at least that's what I'm seeing.

After some more testing, GAIST doesn't work 'fine'. It works 'sort of' but a lot of the spawned sea traffic is not actually visible with Sea Traffic set to off, unlike with Seafront Simulations' 2024 compatible packages, and this does have an impact on the simulator. The ships are there as can be seen with LittleNavMap but not appearing in the sim.

Edited April 25, 20251 yr by toby23

21 minutes ago, toby23 said:

After some more testing, GAIST doesn't work 'fine'. It works 'sort of' but a lot of the spawned sea traffic is not actually visible with Sea Traffic set to off, unlike with Seafront Simulations' 2024 compatible packages, and this does have an impact on the simulator. The ships are there as can be seen with LittleNavMap but not appearing in the sim.

I never got Seafront simulations to work in 2020 something about changing sim time? I haven't bothered in 2024 yet because of this. 

Maybe LOD but still testing SeaFront.

dd

On 4/24/2025 at 4:19 AM, Kassu62 said:

MSFS2024 have all you need for real time marine traffic, but it is still full mess after almost a half year after release.

You can see boat name plates, but no boats. AIS data includes boat type and size information, but that information is ignored (passenger ship, sailing boat, oil tanker, etc.). If you are lucy, you can see a boat, but it is flying and totally wrong type.

Every ship you see a name tag for does have a model, the LODs are just messed up causing some to be invisible all the time unless you force the models' LOD in dev mode, and some ships are invisible unless you're really close up. 

Gaya also messed of the sizes on them in the ship config's file, some ships are reporting as like 5000 meters long according to LittleNavMap. The models are the right size, it's just the logical size that's wrong. I wonder if that could be confusing the LODs? I'm not sure how that works.

I've not personally seen any flying ships.

  

On 4/24/2025 at 4:19 AM, Kassu62 said:

One solution could be a AIS data bridge between MSFS2024 and GAIST? GAIST have working AIS data support, but they lost their AIS data provider. I have understand that there are ship model copyright problems. This solution would keep MSFS2024 and GAIST separated -> no copyright problems.

GAIST team are working with Asobo on the live ship traffic, according to last year's FSExpo presentation at least.

Live ship traffic does have a model matching system similar to live air traffic based off my exploring of the Gaya AI ship configs. AFAIK it only matches based off class type, no specific ship IDs and such.

Edited April 26, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

16 hours ago, toby23 said:

After some more testing, GAIST doesn't work 'fine'. It works 'sort of' but a lot of the spawned sea traffic is not actually visible with Sea Traffic set to off, unlike with Seafront Simulations' 2024 compatible packages, and this does have an impact on the simulator. The ships are there as can be seen with LittleNavMap but not appearing in the sim.

As I noted earlier in this thread, setting Sea Traffic to LOW allows more gaist ships to appear. Not perfect but any means, but better.

Yeah, been using "Vessels" for some time now. Had most of them in 2020, still a few left to buy. But about half are compatible with 2024 but I still use addon linker to bring my 2020 stuff over to 2024. So far, it works. I think Gaist is a great option though!

I can't get GAIST working in MSFS24 at all, it's linked as per normal in add ons linker but I'm seeing nothing in game, I've turned the in have ship setting to Off (SU2 beta may need the issue)

LNM also doesn't show any boats (nor planes for that matter, well it showed one once but that was it), everything works normally in MSFS2020.

On 4/23/2025 at 12:09 PM, BrianT said:

MS2024 and gaist user here works fine for me.

Gaist ship routes folder and Gaist Ultra V6_1 folders in community folder
Settings in MSFS2024

Under "General" Sea traffic setting to "OFF"

I get plenty of traffic certainly around busy ports like Southampton Dover etc as well as lots of smaller yachts and fishing craft.

LOD settings may also play a part but I'm not the best person to say what you should or shouldn't have. I've got a bit of a beast of a machine and it all works for me your mileage WILL vary.

This doesn't appear to be working in the latest SU2 Beta, I'm not seeing any ships at all with Sea Traffic = OFF, when I turn that to ULTRA then the generic default boats appear but not GAIST ones. I'm guessing the beta has broken something here.

On 4/23/2025 at 12:09 PM, BrianT said:

MS2024 and gaist user here works fine for me.

Gaist ship routes folder and Gaist Ultra V6_1 folders in community folder
Settings in MSFS2024

Under "General" Sea traffic setting to "OFF"

I get plenty of traffic certainly around busy ports like Southampton Dover etc as well as lots of smaller yachts and fishing craft.

LOD settings may also play a part but I'm not the best person to say what you should or shouldn't have. I've got a bit of a beast of a machine and it all works for me your mileage WILL vary.

This doesn't appear to be working in the latest SU2 Beta, I'm not seeing any ships at all with Sea Traffic = OFF, when I turn that to ULTRA then the generic default boats appear but not GAIST ones. I'm guessing the beta has broken something here.

25 minutes ago, MarcG said:

This doesn't appear to be working in the latest SU2 Beta, I'm not seeing any ships at all with Sea Traffic = OFF, when I turn that to ULTRA then the generic default boats appear but not GAIST ones. I'm guessing the beta has broken something here.

Ah that's a bummer then. I'm not on the beta, so sorry I can't help any further with that I'm afraid.

Use Gaist; best choice for msfs 2024; until su2 official is released; if not working can always remove till a solution is found.

Edited April 27, 20251 yr by Marc22

On 4/25/2025 at 7:26 AM, toby23 said:

Just to note that the sim needs to be restarted for any changes to take effect, such as setting Sea Traffic to Off or Photogrammetry to Off... GAIST works fine with Sea Traffic set to Off but Seafront Simulations requires at least Low but this will then display Asobo default Sea Traffic as well, at least that's what I'm seeing.

Changing the Sea Traffic setting has immediate effect -- no need to restart.

 

On 4/27/2025 at 4:35 AM, MarcG said:

This doesn't appear to be working in the latest SU2 Beta, I'm not seeing any ships at all with Sea Traffic = OFF, when I turn that to ULTRA then the generic default boats appear but not GAIST ones. I'm guessing the beta has broken something here.

I can confirm, same for me in SU2 beta.

On 4/27/2025 at 5:35 AM, MarcG said:

This doesn't appear to be working in the latest SU2 Beta, I'm not seeing any ships at all with Sea Traffic = OFF, when I turn that to ULTRA then the generic default boats appear but not GAIST ones. I'm guessing the beta has broken something here.

I'm seeing GAIST ships in the beta. Running Sea traffic to ultra, with traffic settings set to AI Offline

 

Unrelated to GAIST, but one of the Gaya fishing boats used by Live Traffic is modelled off the Northwestern from Deadliest Catch

Edited April 28, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

I'm seeing GAIST ships in the beta. Running Sea traffic to ultra, with traffic settings set to AI Offline

 

Unrelated to GAIST, but one of the Gaya fishing boats used by Live Traffic is modelled off the Northwestern from Deadliest Catch

Where is the traffic set to AI Offline?