3 hours ago, efis007 said:

Sorry for the off topic, I'm trying to use Map Enhancement with ADSL (I don't have fiber optics in my area).

Despite the "slow" connection the application seems to work well with low definition maps (note: I fly at high altitude, I'm happy with low definition).

However, all the night lights of the towns, roads, cities have disappeared. 🤔
Only the lights of the airports/runways are visible.
Do I need to install some special light package to get the lights back with Map Enhancement? (note: I don't use Simheaven)

Hi,

I use extended lighting and make sure they are above your map program. https://forums.x-plane.org/files/file/53531-extended-night-lighting-options-for-the-world/

 

3 hours ago, efis007 said:

Do I need to install some special light package to get the lights back with Map Enhancement? (note: I don't use Simheaven)

You need overlays (generated from the default terrain or provided by SimHeaven) to have night lighting.

Hello. I just purchased GF V2. After several errors and incomplete downloaded files, I managed to try it. And reading this thread, I have learned a lot. I would like to post my Scenery order, see if I got this corrrect. GF is placed below all X-World and above XPME. Thank you

 

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1000 Version
SCENERY

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - EGPR Barra/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - KBTV Burlington/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - KJRB Downtown Manhattan Heliport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - LSEZ Zermatt Heliport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - TFFJ St Barthelemy/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - TNCS Juancho E Yrausquin/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Saint Louis/
SCENERY_PACK *GLOBAL_AIRPORTS*
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Berlin and Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Budapest/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Los Angeles/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Paris/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Portland/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Rio De Janeiro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Salzburg/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - San Francisco/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World-Asia-2.2.2-full/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Vegetation_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Asia-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Australia-Oceania-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global_Forests_v2/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_Overlays/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_Africa/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_Asia/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_Australia_Pacific/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_Europe/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_North_America/
SCENERY_PACK D:\XP12 Map Enhancement\XPME_South_America/
 

Edited September 16, 2025Sep 16 by History

11 hours ago, History said:

. I would like to post my Scenery order, see if I got this corrrect. GF is placed below all X-World and above XPME.

That looks OK to me, I have mine directly under the SimHeaven entries and just above the XPME entries as well and seems to work just fine.

Since I am not using MEP with 12.3 beta I am really going to give this a new try.

Apparently it coexists nicely with the X-World Vegetation Library (?)

In the area I fly IRL, and particularly my base aerodrome these days ( LPMN - Amendoeira airfield ) there are lines of trees next to the runway(s) that are not present in Xp12 😕  In FS 2024 they are there, as well as all of those southwest of N 114  / IC 10 that create some problems if one has to abort a tow right after taking off from LPMN rw 21... I am eager to try and see if Global Forests changes anything in this area...

Edited September 16, 2025Sep 16 by jcomm

6 hours ago, jcomm said:

Apparently it coexists nicely with the X-World Vegetation Library (?)

Of course it does, as the library is just that: a library. And not a scenery.

Edited September 16, 2025Sep 16 by Bjoern

I haven't gone back to MSFS2024 since SU4. Dont get me wrong, MSFS 2024 is more mature and it is much more stable. So I'll leave it that way for now. Time to get back to XP12 which I have left since January this year.

One thing that keeps me busy with XP12 is that it turns out Map Enhancement gets along very very well with Ortho4XP.

Whenever I fly in a Ortho4XP area, Map Enhancement only loads tens of textures. But when I get outside of the Ortho4XP areas, it loads hundreds of textures as usual. So it fills in the non satellite areas.

What I did was put Ortho4XP scenery above the Map Enhancement and below the X-World's. Also I am using GF v2. 

All in all, Google ZL 17 is much better for low and slow flying than Bing ZL17. Besides, Bing sometimes generates white tiles! The download is also much faster although resulting in bigger files than Bing.

Cc: @jcomm

Edited September 17, 2025Sep 17 by History

12 hours ago, Bjoern said:

Of course it does, as the library is just that: a library. And not a scenery.

😞  I should have thought before writing it... But the worst is that I had never seen it that way, duh! (I'm getting senile 😕 )

Well,

my scenery_packs.ini reads like bellow, with two Libraries after the X-World entries and just before Global Forests.

I just did a test flight around Innsbruck and it looks different, for the better side...

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SCENERY

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - EGPR Barra/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - KBTV Burlington/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - KJRB Downtown Manhattan Heliport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - LSEZ Zermatt Heliport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - TFFJ St Barthelemy/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Airports - TNCS Juancho E Yrausquin/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Saint Louis/
SCENERY_PACK *GLOBAL_AIRPORTS*
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Berlin and Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Budapest/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Los Angeles/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Paris/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Portland/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Rio De Janeiro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Salzburg/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - San Francisco/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Africa-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_America-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Antarctica-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-1-vfr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-3-details/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-4-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-5-footprints/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-6-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-7-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Europe-8-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-World_Vegetation_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Orbx_XP12_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global_Forests_v2/
 

On 5/26/2025 at 12:45 PM, Rimshot said:

I'm seriously contemplating getting X-Plane 12, but I'm totally not looking forward to all this hassle to make the sim look good...

Same here! If 3rd party developbers can make the sim look so much better maybe Laminar should license their technology and add it to X-Plane, would surely make X-Plane more tempting to purchase.

7 minutes ago, MartinRex007 said:

Same here! If 3rd party developbers can make the sim look so much better maybe Laminar should license their technology and add it to X-Plane, would surely make X-Plane more tempting to purchase.

Laminar are in the process of improving ground scenery.  

I know it looks like a lot of hassle to improve XP12, but it really isn't.  There are just a few addons required to improve the ground scenery and some of them are free.  Just ask on here for advice and we can remove the hassle with simple guides.  There is no need to ever go into the scenery_packs.ini if you use a tool like xOrganiser.

Install XP12 and take it one step at a time and ask for advice here.