2 hours ago, GoranM said:

It's Sunday.  And where I am, there's not a cloud in the sky, and I'm sitting outside, enjoying my day and spending time with my daughter.  Like I said.  Believe it or don't.  

That sounds genuinely nice. That you’re deciding to spend that nice time on walls of texts making aggressive claims which are clearly false and you refuse to back up despite warning people so often in the past that you keep a library of screenshots to use in exactly this kind of situation, making catty asides about the quality of this forum, insinuations of pedantry, moving your own goalposts, and topping all this off by accusing others of confrontational attitudes, is, well……a bit sad.

1 minute ago, scotchegg said:

That sounds genuinely nice. That you’re deciding to spend that nice time on walls of texts making aggressive claims which are clearly false and you refuse to back up despite warning people so often in the past that you keep a library of screenshots to use in exactly this kind of situation, making catty asides about the quality of this forum, insinuations of pedantry, moving your own goalposts, and topping all this off by accusing others of confrontational attitudes, is, well……a bit sad.

Thank you for proving my point.

9 hours ago, ATRguy said:

Hey, that's me!

And yes, MSFS is/was used there, why wouldn't it be?  It has far and away the best scenery out there, and with the right addons (the Aerosoft Twin Otter not being one of them) the flight dynamics are as good as any other sim too.

That being said, they're not TEACHING on it.  They're using it for familiarity.  The people using it are already commercial pilots.

Hi, thanks for your post! Yup, I knew from your comment, that is was already certified pilots that were using MSFS to familiarize themselves with the terrain.  But that is very interesting, that they would choose to use MSFS 2020 to familiarize themselves with the terrain!  

Do you know if other Seaplane companies do this or is it just your company?

Edited June 15, 2025Jun 15 by abrams_tank

9 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Goran,

CFI is commonly referred as Certified Flight Instructor.   was under impression that this universal thing.

 

It's not, here in the UK CFI is a Chief Flying Instructor, a plain flying instructor is abbreviated to FI

9 hours ago, GoranM said:

It's Sunday.  And where I am, there's not a cloud in the sky, and I'm sitting outside, enjoying my day and spending time with my daughter.  Like I said.  Believe it or don't.  

Maybe I do.  Again, it's Sunday.  And I'm taking my first day off in 3 months from working on TBM updates.  I'm not going to go digging around forum posts and screenshots.

If you want to feel like you've won an argument, that's fine.  You've won.  I don't even know why you're replying.  You were never in this conversation to begin with.  No one tagged you.

Please, do something with your Sunday.  Even if it is just loading up MSFS and enjoying it.

The central point in all this is simple, and it applies to everyone including myself: Don't make assertions that you can't back up, about what people supposedly have said in this or other forums. 

23 minutes ago, cobalt said:

The central point in all this is simple, and it applies to everyone including myself: Don't make assertions that you can't back up, about what people supposedly have said in this or other forums. 

This is why I have links and screenshots of a plethora of forum posts. If I feel like digging up this specific example, rest assured, I will. 

On 6/10/2025 at 11:34 AM, GoranM said:

But it doesn't count towards flying hours

Neither does your favorite sim for 99.99% of all users who don't pay the money for its certified version let alone the strict hardware requirements to be able to count time towards flying hours.  

4 minutes ago, Noel said:

Neither does your favorite sim for 99.99% of all users who don't pay the money for its certified version let alone the strict hardware requirements to be able to count time towards flying hours.  

You got that post of me raging yet, Noel?

30 minutes ago, GoranM said:

You got that post of me raging yet, Noel?

Yours is a sweetly masked rage against MSFS and that is why you show up in these threads.  Hinting that MSFS might approach the value of XP is just too much for you to ignore and that is the only reason you're here, to try to set the record straight from your POV.  But you killed your own agenda when you admitted the reality of ALL desktop flight sims:  'Flight sims are an entertainment platform used for a hobby.'  That's right.  So your care to come here and remind people of this, "FAA certification is another level, and only one flight sim, with the correct hardware, is qualified for that" betrays your agenda here.  The built-in elitist smug factor comes from that, and that alone.  I'll give you the respect when you have the license and hardware, outside of that it's idle prattle. And of all the 1000's of XPlane users, how many use the 'correct hardware' the requirements of which are super stiff and certified version of XP?  I'll venture this guess:  almost none.

Edited June 15, 2025Jun 15 by Noel

8 minutes ago, Noel said:

Yours is a sweetly masked rage against MSFS and that is why you show up in these threads. 

Quite the assumption. 

8 minutes ago, Noel said:

Hinting that MSFS might approach the value of XP is just too much for you to ignore and that is the only reason you're here, to try to set the record straight from your POV. 

It’s because of MSFS that my sales have spiked. Why would I hate it??  Most people choose both sims. 
 

 

10 minutes ago, Noel said:

'Flight sims are an entertainment platform used for a hobby.'  That's right.  So your care to come here and remind people of this, "FAA certification is another level, and only one flight sim, with the correct hardware, is qualified for that"

I’m confused. What part of all that do you disagree with, and why are you chastising me for it?

11 minutes ago, Noel said:

And of all the 1000's of XPlane users, how many use the 'correct hardware' the requirements of which are super stiff and certified version of XP?  I'll venture this guess:  almost none.

Well, you said 99.9% don’t have it. I’d venture a guess of 99.99%. 
😉

8 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I’m confused.

Agreed.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

"FAA certification is another level, and only one flight sim, with the correct hardware, is qualified for that"

That was a particularly hilarious assertion right?, given that P3D with the correct hardware can also be FAA certified as a training device/system. And those two sims are quite different in their default core capabilities (P3D is based on FSX after all), so attempting to wave that around as some special trait in order to denigrate MSFS always falls completely flat 🤣
 

Edited June 15, 2025Jun 15 by lwt1971

Just now, Noel said:

Agreed.

Maybe learn to articulate. 
got that rage post you said I made?

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

This is why I have links and screenshots of a plethora of forum posts. If I feel like digging up this specific example, rest assured, I will. 

Then do it. Otherwise the assumption will be that you cannot.

7 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Then do it. Otherwise the assumption will be that you cannot.

No offense, but I have other more important things to do. 
I have customers to look after and an update to deliver. 
Like I said. Believe me or don’t.